book of bad breaks, more deep cuts
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Prowling the Mogos tonight, I keep coming back to the amusing connection between social/mental/actual age and jargon. Some Moggers are fans of compound, hyphenated gerunds (mind-boggling, ear-splitting, genre-bending), others of one-line posts, still others are single-worded peeps (word, dope, dude).
Some write a fuck lot of fuck like Bukowski, or fook like Irvine Welsh, or adore the lower case like e.e. cummings. There are overstaters like Tarantino, and understaters like the unrelated Andersons, P.T. and Wes. I am guilty as charged. Often I belong to the lot that write confessionally.
I am a product of my own social exposure, and this lot was severely exposed to the early to mid-nineties. Confessional and in-your-face were all the rage in jargon of the time. (It's funny now.) Harmony Korine and Todd Solondz rocked the pre-emo emo 'verse; Little Earthquakes and Prozac Nation spawned an entire movement of tell-all chicks. And never before or since has the word "angst" been so abused.
More and more, too, the wisdom of 40+ Moggers is becoming undeniable to me. (Socially/mentally/actually 40+.) They tend to say succinctly what I am still taking a lifetime to comprehend, when I pay attention to the writing. When I tire of the blabber of youth, I retire to Moggeezers' posts to find sageness and quiet. Yes, that was a shout-out, Moggeezers rule.
To end, forecasters of disasters Thee More Shallows' smattering of post rock, slowcore, noise, Krautrock, and San Francisco sounds kind of like my confessional predisposition. I did not hear the 2007 album, Book Of Bad Breaks, until lately - their first with Anticon, having left Monotreme after 3 albums and a real good run. They have since been remixed by Odd Nosdam, The Chap, and Meanest Man Contest.
One other thing is they sound like a dubbier, electro hoppier Three Mile Pilot, which as you know is a plus in my book. Also, I am holding off on the EP until another day but feel free to bring it up. I am guessing y'all know them but I noticed a serious lack of Moggedness so.
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Comments (51)
2 AM from the sophomore album, More Deep Cuts, out in 2004 via Monotreme.
mogger guitarorchestragirl posted about Thee More Shallows here - http://mog.com/guitarorchestragirl/blog/87808
Oh Yes, Another Mother from Book Of Bad Breaks
poe, I love your post.
I think my avatar is more than telling in which department I belong to ahaha
Thank you for this sonical yumminess. You just keep 'em coming, don't you? Enchanted, once more.
Your posts are like e-Prozac to me (I mean that to be a compliment) :)
Do I count as a Moggeezer? God, I hope so.
dude. fuck. this mog geezer digs this post. ee cummings style!
I may have ben guilty once of being a bucolic Bukowski, a K mart Kerouac, a Poor man's Poe, or even once a metastized meta ficitonal leanings, over abundence in explanaition, sucker for simile, and maven of metapor, a certain detail and thought process both exhibiting points of view (gor the reader of course) from the keyboard, the cricket in the corner of the room (under the pair of gym shorts, and the sudo ironic coffee cup with the words coffee cup written black on white - all very much in the vein of a David Foster Wallace.
But how do I blog? Between wordy and succinct (I am a gemini afterall, and constantly dontradict myself). I love writing, but my shortest posts usually ellicit the most response. So blogging in a sense has given me limits and made me more decisive in what I want to say, for better or worse. Not that you can tell from this response.
This is such a great analysis, and mog is so great in bringing all these different styles together, I love all teh different styles and points of view. Great post.
fan-f**king-tastic! Well, there goes a couple more hyphens from the warehouse:
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40+? What does 50+ get ya? Free oatmeal?
Free Oatmeal? I didn't know he was imprisioned...
Can I be a MOG geezer yet? Please? I know I'm only 39, but I think I've got everything else. Besides, I want that free oatmeal, doggone it!
And Thee More Shallows ... nice! I like how it never quite settles into a groove, like a train that's thisclose to derailing.
This post is one for the records!
Lovilay .... absolutely lovilay.
Free Oatmeal!
I want to be a mog geezer too.
Anna - hey there, birthday girl! ahahahah i did not notice that avatar creep up on me - we may be in the same class. why, i am feeling pretty ecstatic after the compliment. as you can see, i am all about figurative drug effects. (+
qballvolpe - i promised not to name names, lest i've mistaken someone who's 24 for being 42. keep the punk posts coming!
Jeff - hahahah. your comment ticks all the boxes, like television. ;D
Tyler - i have a similar dilemma. i love writing lengthy, wordy posts but shorter posts elicit more response. thanks for the positive spin - "So blogging in a sense has given me limits and made me more decisive in what I want to say, for better or worse." it takes me a lot of self restraint (and curbing of enthusiasm) to blog at reasonable length.
"a bucolic Bukowski, a K mart Kerouac, a Poor man's Poe" - i love these! here is what my heart tells me: self-conscious/self-censored writing can offer you celebrity and a fan base, selfless, obsessive posts can gain you a religious/cult following. (i prefer the latter.)
Scott - i myself am guilty as hell with the hyphens, it is just a distinct writing trait i thought i'd point out. music journalists are fans of hyphenated adjectives, i find. please, i can't go from donkey to oatmeal, it just isn't right. (8
Dale - try as i might to write a review (i don't seem to know how), i can never come up with "a train that's thisclose to derailing" and that's why i am happy to shut up and listen to those who can. on more "shallow" matters, there's no way you're already 39, that's got to be just a "40+" joke??
Nick - hahah, between Cody's "illady" and your "lovilay" i am at least thankful no one's forgetting my hard-to-say name (oopsie, more hyphens). "Free Oatmeal" is quite the catchy slogan, huh? bring on the t-shirts!
Pat - how come everyone wants to be old?? is old the new black? yeah, i also want to have kickass zen-like wisdom and be able to infect the kids with my words. if only.
g'night, folkz. Free Oatmeal!
Nice! I hear 30 is the new 40+...
It's alright Poe, cuz the marketing now is about making it stick with the bleeding edge and the obsessive! Screw the middle, go for the Bleeding Edge (I smell a blog name in there some where...)
Free Oatmeal?! Man if that's not a T shirt, I don't kow what is. I gotta get this up on Threadless or Cafe Press! Were in meme territory now. I'll get back to you on that one...
Us geezers are grateful for your kind words....
you know...I fit the Mogeezer category but if you ever offer me that free oatmeal, I'll toss it into your eye.
Does being horribly immature interfer with the geeziness of my posts?
I'm not sure about the free oatmeal, but I'm pretty sure I qualify for the early bird special....
Cody - hah! that's good to know. speaking as a thirtysomething, i simply wish to gain the wisdom of old age before i start losing my memory/hair/teeth. :} on a personal note, i miss your posts but hope you're enjoying the vacay.
Tyler - there's a bleeding good reason to visit the IPO today if i ever saw one - "Bleeding Edge" (me likey!!!). and take Scott with you to copyright "Free Oatmeal" - i am looking forward to the t-shirt indeed.
Bill - personally i love a good breakfast in the early evening so i am joining you for the Early Bird Special. i am not shunning the free oatmeal, i know i'll need the likes of it when i am 85 and have no more teeth! that and a nurse and grandkids.
Amber - you and me both, my dear. i was careful to qualify age knowing very well my mental age is at least 15 years less than the real one. it's all good - we are hot and young enough for that incredibly cute guitarist of The Blakes. ;d
hehe this post was great. I think I'm a wannabe mogeezer, but I use phrases like "hehe" and "super cute" and way too many exclamation points. Plus, I don't really care for oatmeal.
Oh BTW:
moar funny pictures
*My apologies too Oatmeal, who has nothing to do with this (but I just couldn't resist).
Are you taking orders?.... I'll have a size medium, with raisins, a dollop of butter and brown sugar.
Ilay...I always love your telling perspective. I have to admit it took a little focus, but I'm proud to say I follow! That must put me somewhere in Middle School? (Which was awkward...now I have to listen to go listen to Slient all these years again to set me straight!)
I've read a lot of geezers posts with admiration. And you're (contrabandwidth too btw) in the group but for some reason they're not checking your ID?! I feel lucky to have such great e-buddies school me on what's what. Cheers to reading the mog-geezers...and you!
"Thee Shallows" certainly did a fine job of soundtracking these thoughts.
contra, you are a graphics demon!
My comment is fucking skipping! Why doesn't the damn spell check work in the [mog] comment box anymore?! I thought firefox had my back! : P
(Hi Anna...excuse the language...yep I'm in middle school)
Hey Helen! No worries, I'm in the OMG FFS 4U SK8ER BOY elementary phase myself :)
Are you using Firefox? If so, shoot a mog-mail to Chris (I_am), he used to have the same problem but found out how to fix it :)
HAHAHA!
LIKE OMG I will totally mog-mail him dude!
Thanks luv... ; )
And, uh...if you're in elementary school, then I'm probably still working a pre-level. Time to hit the books. : P
Just love it - you sis & your post...
Funny how folks are WANTING to be in the 40+ age bracket & be a shoegeezer. Only on Mog, haha! I must say I love being a shoegeezer myself. . . .
So once again it takes someone clear across the world from me to intro. me to someone in SF. I'm loving all these songs ilay, thanks for the post. I'll check out their site & probably see them live soon I'm thinkin'.
And where did the oatmeal reference come from anyway? I missed that somehow!
FUCK...
i am NOT OLD
DAMNIT
deg - i read ya. half of me is a wannabe Moggeezer and the other half that clings to adolescence uses a lot of "hahahah" and "rocks". plus, a love-hate for smileys.
Tyler - i just caught your comment on Cody's Mistress AMG post, too. you are one of the funniest unfunny Moggers, i swear.
Nick - you got me. the truth is i love oatmeal (and cereals) and have it almost everyday. orders'll cost ya. (8
what, the girly party happened without me ?!?
Helen - "I have to admit it took a little focus, but I'm proud to say I follow!" - hahahahah. i love it. your honesty is certainly grade school level. :} the books did nothing wrong, stop laying a hand on them!
Anna - "OMG FFS 4U SK8ER BOY" - omigod i never thought i'd see the day, hahahah. i had you mistaken for someone who just turned a year older. ;d
Lizzie - awww. GOSH. backatcha! aaaaaand i am back to being mentally 19.
Aug - i know, right? old is new again!
the oatmeal reference comes from a very strange place, i must say --
scotfree: What does 50+ get ya? Free oatmeal?
contrabandwidth: Free Oatmeal? I didn't know he was imprisoned...
Dzendvokh: Free Oatmeal!
-- Moggers are a hilarious bunch. Oatmeal/Amiel is a hapless, unknowing victim in all this. LOL!
Keith - PIMP is always an exception, never the rule. you = fuck old age. ;p
Ahahhahaahhahaha! The oatmeal stuff must've been on someone else's post huh? That is hilarious, thanks for 'splainin' it to me ilay! Moggers are a hysterical bunch that's for sure.
Time and place.
I find writing happens within a time and place. God I sound like a parrot.
Bukowski is a great reference, and I wooed my wife with e.e. cummings.
What do we do with words? Some punch and some embrace.
Here is my time and place and I see I missed yours by 5 days.
Why? Because it happens that's why.
While your in it .... isn't it the best place you can be?
Peace Ilay, in everything you do.
Wicked cool track BTW. Fucking Wicked.
Did I say wicked cool? I mean it for the third time.
Okay ya shanked me. That video smokes.
Aug - too true. only a HYSTERICAL bunch could have walked into that embarrassing post i just made on the dark side and still stayed calm. :}
Chris - a wooer armed with e.e. cummings - you are a threat and a danger to society.
have i told you that i envy the way you write? the "i want to kill you and take the credit" kind of envy. there's only two people in MOG for whom i feel that way, although differently - you and ngtvspace. there, i said it.
"What do we do with words? Some punch and some embrace." - see? i want to kill you, it's sick. posts of yours have propelled me to that time and place.
have a nice Sunday, future receiver of my murder. watch your back.
Finally got back to this one. Whew, just finished putting the reinforced concrete slabs on my safe house and I am ready to trianglate the Early Detection System.
Thank god your poor. I know it will be awhile before you find me.
Oh snap! Return address on the envelope. Shit!
In all seriousness, if we were both in high school, I think you would be the girl I'd ask to the prom.
As for writing it's a two way street. I dig your style as well.
Sometimes my best posts come from, are you ready for this .... laziness. I write what I can remember rather then looking up all sorts of things.
I hope I didn't damage my rep. by making that confession.
no way chris..but there's gonna be a riot in the lunch room when you step to the Illady.
Why? Who's in line?
They can't beat the King of Rhyme.
Follow fashion monkeys that's all.
In the end it'll be me
taking Ilay to the ball.
Wick wick wacky wick
Wick wick wacky wick
Wick wick wacky wick (fade out)
Cody, yes, i tell the best lunch table jokes around town. what did the chicken say to the ...naaah, i ain't got it. Riot in the Lunch Room should be a song by The Smiths.
Chris, was that a proverbial envelope with return address?
did i just get asked to the prom? i wonder if corsage makers still exist out there. it's like one of the lost enterprises.
your laziness should consider rockstardom or at least a career.
Chris and Ilay are going to prom...sweet! The King and Queen of MOG High!
Oh snap..if you need a tux, I just saw MOG has After Six ads you could click on for bargains galore..Just ad a Hawaiian shirt and you are all set.
um. i absolutely refuse to stand next to anyone with way prettier hair than mine.
also...
See what I mean Chris..
I know i am kinda late finding this, but good post lady :)
-G.
(almost 32)
Thanks, and I promise I wasn't trying to match your tardiness. (;
(Almost 32, huh? Wait 'til you start forgetting your daily vitamins.)