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Guilty Displeasure: Pinback "Autumn Seraphs"

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Pinback “Autumn Seraphs” 
By Roxy S. 
4 out of 10 Lets face it. These days, time is scant. In between dealing with days that end in “Y” or that don’t start with “S,” we hardly find the time to kick back, put up our feet, pop open a cold can of soda, and read a review. Now that you have, however, I might as well make it worth your time and that can of soda by cutting to the chase about my take on the SoCal band Pinback, whose album “Autumn Seraphs” is due mid-September. After listening to the record and collecting my thoughts on it, I’ve decided that the style of my review should reflect the album itself: simple, yet a tad unorthodox. Pinback was formed back in 1998, the brain child of musicians Armistead Burwell Smith IV (Zach Smith) and Rob Crowe. Initially formed off-handedly as Zach and Rob pursued other projects, namely Three Mile Pilot and Heavy Vegetable, Pinback realized its full potential once it got signed to AceFu Records. The release of their self-titled album marked their debut in 1999 and touring proceeded. Somewhat known for their tour-only EPs, such as “Arrive Having Eaten” and “This Is a Pinback Tour”, Pinback’s follow up album “Blue Screen Life” was released in 2001. In 2004, Pinback released Summer in Abaddon, its first album off current label Touch and Go Records. You may have heard them on the guilty pleasure I know you watched: The O.C. When asked about the upcoming album, Rob Crowe may have lost me with this: "That weird smell in the air when you somehow get outside in the morning of the harsh sun is baking the night off of the concrete. It makes you feel as if you've been missing something, and of course you have. One wonders how many experiences one will miss during their short time on earth just by doing what they would normally do everyday. There is almost always somewhere that you'd rather be, whether you know it or even think it’s possible or not... There are people for whom denying themselves pleasure makes them feel the most alive. I’m not sure if that would make life more or less difficult. This has nothing at all to do with Pinback's new album, 'Autumn of the Seraphs'." Well. My thoughts on the album are much simpler. They don’t involve the smell of sun-baked concrete, instead they take the form of an interview with myself on “Autumn Seraphs.” What do you think of Pinback’s new album “Autumn Seraphs”?I think it sounds like something I’ve heard before. Nice, but nothing extraordinary. 
Did you like it?
It’s not particularly my taste. 
Why not? 
It’s not that it’s not a good album; I would definitely recommend “Autumn Seraphs” to someone who is just now breaking into alternative music. It’s just a bit simple sounding, as if the band hasn’t graduated to making music beyond teen TV soundtracks. 
Does anything in particular stand out to you on the album? Any highs or lows you’d like to touch on?
My favorite track was “Good to Sea” with “Subbing for Eden” following in a close second. They probably stood out as two of the sunnier songs on the album. Other tracks such as “From Nothing to Nowhere” and “Devil You Know” are a bit more ominous than others such as ”Torch.” All tracks are marked by airy vocals and piano-like effects on the guitars with the occasional keyboards chiming in. I didn’t really care for the fact that EVERY sentence that was sung seemed to run on into the other due to a rise in pitch of the last word. Who would this album appeal to?High Schoolers looking to add some variety to their constant diet of rock radio bands like the Offspring, or Deathcab for Cutie. 
Lyrically, were you able to identify with Pinback?No, I wasn’t really able to identify with lines like “You taste like tears/We share our soul.” Their lyrics seemed to go beyond the realm of the everyday and were teetering on the brink on transcendentalism with musings about life and the mind.Describe their sound:
A mixture of 311 meets Rooney or Interpol depending on the track. 
Does their music have an obvious SoCal sound?
Maybe the brighter, poppier parts that remind me of Rooney, but certainly nothing that screams the Blink-182 SoCal sound. 
What would you attribute their success to?They’re pretty easy to listen to, and they incorporate elements (however minimal) such as keyboards and layered vocals that make them both pop and alternative at the same time. 
Overall, what were you feelings on Pinback with after hearing “Autumn Seraphs”?
All in all, I wasn’t too impressed. Personally, I don’t see myself going out and purchasing their cd. I don’t see myself downloading one or two token songs by them either. That's not to say I would get up and change the channel as I watched my friends Ryan, Marissa, Seth, and Summer walk off into the sunset and off the O.C. set with “Autumn Seraphs” fading softly in the background. I’ve heard much better, and I’ve heard much worse.

Comments (20)

  1. dachmo says I'm a fan of Pinback so I thought it would be a good idea to read your "review" of the album, but what a bad idea that turned out to be. Why would you waste your time writing a review for an album you clearly don't like by a band you basically dismiss as being beneath your alternative wonderfulness. I'm not into flaming people especially on this wonderful website, but your self-indulgent "review" was a bigger waste of time then you thought the new Pinback album to be. We try to promote bands here at Mog.
    Permalink posted 08/28/2007
  2. pinkertonwasbetter says hey. it's unfortunate that my review and my "alternative wonderfulness" have offended you; your reaction is not unexpected because i know i would do the same if i read a similar review for a band i really enjoyed. i am, however, entitled to my opinion just as you are, and i don't see it fit to apologize for my honest thoughts on Pinback. i'm not going to like every album for every band i review, and i didn't go into this review with a closed mind. in fact, i had never heard of Pinback prior to getting the review. it's just how things turned out. ~Roxy
    Permalink posted 08/28/2007
  3. dachmo says " ...I had never heard of Pinback prior to **getting** the review." MOG is for people who love good music and want to share it with other people, hence the subtitle found at the top of every page "Music discovery for real people". Nobody is going to Discover a band if they read a bad review on them. Of course your entitled to your own opinion, what I'm getting at is **why post a bad review about a band you don't like when you could've spent your time, and our time, better by writing a positive review about a band you _do_ like**. Nobody here is getting paid to post our opinions which is why I don't understand the part of your comment where you say " ...prior to getting the review" Who gave you the job of reviewing the new Pinback album? If your using MOG as a stepping stone for a job in music journalism then you should learn take a little criticism. I wasn't offended by your take on Pinback's album, it just seems odd that somebody would go out of their way to say something negative when they weren't expected to say anything at all. Imagine a person you've never met before walks up to you on the street and tells you "...your shoes are ugly and your breath stinks!" and then walks away. Pretty weird, right?
    Permalink posted 08/28/2007
  4. dachmo says Seems like your an intern working for MOG, I guess I should be eating crow...
    Permalink posted 08/28/2007
  5. Hesse says For me about half of Pinback's songs are unlistenable but the catchy ones are far better than Rooney or 311. More mature and less pretentious.
    Permalink posted 08/30/2007
  6. Michael Goldberg says Dachmo, I do work at MOG as the Editor. I pick the reviews and news and streaming songs that we feature on the home page. Occasionally, we in the MOG office facilitate getting an album that we think ought to be reviewed to a Mogger. I think Pinkertonwasbetter is a good writer. I liked some things she had posted on MOG, and so we asked her if she wanted to review the Pinback album. There is nothing wrong with a post about an album that a Mogger doesn't think is that good. That can also be helpful to people who are trying to figure which albums are worth their time and money. And it's good for a music fan who is NOT already a fan of a band to review an album. Hardcore fans will get the album anyway and make up their mind. But those who aren't fans may not find an album as worthy of their time and money as that of another band. 30,000 or more albums are released each year. And I have to say that if I was making a list of albums to buy, I would put recent albums by Spoon, Feist, Black Francis, M.I.A., a Vashti Bunyan reissue all on my list ahead of this Pinback album. Not that it's a bad album, just that the others are really exceptional.
    Permalink posted 09/11/2007
  7. Marigold says Michael, First off. I have a bit of an issue with the criteria for picking someone to review something solely based on their writing ability. Maybe I have mis-read the Mog experience, but to have someone who is unfamiliar with the band be given the nod to review a cd based on their writing ability simply confuses me. It goes completely against my experience thus far on Mog. I have no problem with pinkertonwasbetter not liking the new Pinback record. She admittedly says she had never even heard of Pinback prior to be given her copy of it to review. IF she was a fan of Pinback and gave the same review minus all of the *CONDESCENDING BULLCRAP I would have much more respect for her Mog review. I would certainly find it more credible for one. Obviously she read some bios and pieced together a review. Has she ever listened to Summer In Abaddon? As someone who is unfamiliar with Pinback how does she know they were played on the O.C. had she not read that somewhere? I would much rather read a review of someone who loves Pinback and is disappointed with the new release then someone who has read a bio and put together a review on listening to one record out of context to an artists discography. Mog to me is about people that love bands and want to share them with others. This review reeks of Pitchfork if you ask me. If this is the direction Mog is going, I for one will be severely disappointed. *CONDESCENDING BULLCRAP: >>Who would this album appeal to? High Schoolers looking to add some variety to their constant diet of rock radio bands like the Offspring, or Deathcab for Cutie.<< >>Why not? 
 It’s not that it’s not a good album; I would definitely recommend “Autumn Seraphs” to someone who is just now breaking into alternative music. It’s just a bit simple sounding, as if the band hasn’t graduated to making music beyond teen TV soundtracks. << In regard to the above review comments. This is exactly the reason I do not think of websites such as Pitchfork as credible anymore. This type of elitist no-respect for others tastes attitude is appalling to me. These are the things you think about others peoples music and don't say about others music. Music is a personal experience to people and to say these things I find insulting. In the interest of full disclosure. Yes, I am a Pinback fan. Yes, The new record is not as good as their earlier work.
    Permalink posted 09/12/2007
  8. Marigold says didnt mean for that whole paragraph to be bold. I guess I just learned the html code for making things bold. :)
    Permalink posted 09/12/2007
  9. Marigold says Ironically pitchfork gave the new record a 7.8 today, must admit I did not see that one coming.
    Permalink posted 09/12/2007
  10. amber says Wow, I didn't know my musical tastes were so pedestrian...I was just introduced to Pinback today, and found them trippy and lyrically lovely. I think I need to pull out my 3 college diplomas out, to remind myself that I am not a high school student just breaking into alternative music. And for the record, I didn't watch the OC. Not even once. But I do like Death Cab. So sue me.
    Permalink posted 09/12/2007
  11. pinkertonwasbetter says Thank you all for your comments. Any feedback, both good and bad, is appreciated! Love, Roxy
    Permalink posted 09/13/2007
  12. poebegone says Pinback isn't your thing. Fallout Boy isn't mine. Or My Chemical Romance. I have far harsher words for them than you have for Pinback; "High Schoolers" or "ominous" does not even cut it. I do not care to use any of those words in MOG because I acquiesce to the fact that they have fans. MOG is not about music but about fans of music. Whether or not this was the intention, MOG has evolved to that. And fans take themselves seriously. People who cry over lyrics, wave lighters in darkness at concerts, or queue up for Ben Gibbard's autograph are the most serious silly people you'll ever meet, if you aren't one of them (us) already. Pink MOGs. MOG asked you to review an album and, of all the things you could do with that circumstance, you went for witty. At the expense of your potential writing savvy, in my humble opinion. You are 18 and likely lack the sense necessary to grasp why some people were offended by your review (which, by the way, was 10% about Autumn of the Seraphs), for which no amount of textbook knowledge can compensate. Wait, did that sound disrespectful? Now you get the idea. In any case, let us see you write another review another time. Welcome to MOG.
    Permalink posted 09/13/2007
  13. pinkertonwasbetter says Oh stop it; you're being too sweet. Thanks again for the feedback! ~Roxy
    Permalink posted 09/13/2007
  14. pinkertonwasbetter says By the way, my birthday is in two weeks. Maybe then, you know when I turn 19, I will be lucky enough to gain some of this "sense" you are talking about that I clearly lack at 18. Until then though, I'm afraid I'm just going to have to get by on this textbook knowledge :) ~Roxy
    Permalink posted 09/13/2007
  15. david hyman says we like to have reviews on mog the day the records come out so we pass pre-releases to moggers whom kate or someone in the office believes would be interested. i have no control over someone on mog saying something sucks. this site is a free-for-all. in a way, it's a network of music blogs and as such, each mogger has the right to write a post whereby they say that something is great, or not. we have a feature under preferences whereby you can completely block a mogger from your view. if she or anyone else is not to your liking, i'd urge you to remove them from your view. sorry, but we can't make all the people happy all the time. -d
    Permalink posted 09/14/2007
  16. HeDreamsAwake says I have never Blogged in my life, but, I read the review on Pinback's new CD, "Autumn Of The Saraphs" & I made an account for MOG to chime in on the fact that whoever attacked the intelligent & unique Reviewer absolutely frustrated the hell out of me. We all have our opinions & that is the bottom line. I think "Blue Screen Life" was far beyond amazing & I heard of them because someone told me that my music sounded like Pinback --( www.myspace.com/hedreamsawake )-- I need HELP putting out my Debut Album. I wanna see what this site is all about & what advice I can recieve. Cheers to my first Blog/Mog. Rob Crow is hard working, people love him, & Armistad is one of the best bass players in the industry, they are amazing, period. That is my opinion, Don't get upset because I like band or better yet, Don't waste your time posting. Alan K. Fink He Dreams Awake <---sorry for the plug www.myspace.com/hedreamsawake & www.phibble.com/hedreamsawake
    Permalink posted 09/16/2007
  17. scotfree says If nothing else, Mog never ceases to amaze in it's ability to entertain. I'm all for some flame wars that don't go nuclear. This whole thread was a great read - couldn't put it down. Thanks y'all!!
    Permalink posted 09/18/2007
  18. madrid spacestation spain says AH, such a frustrating reveiw to read, its a long read to realize that its not worth listening to. kinda curious, i like the comments though, and the foo fighters review is great
    Permalink posted 10/01/2007
  19. pinkertonwasbetter says haha sorry, but thanks! oh and i really like your username. ~Roxy
    Permalink posted 10/01/2007
  20. madrid spacestation spain says thanks!, but i can't take credit, its a lyric. please keep writing reviews, they are good reads, especially at work
    Permalink posted 10/04/2007

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