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Save the RADIO--- URGENT HELP!!

Posted almost 5 years ago
WHY DOES EVERY RADIO STATION SOUND THE SAME?????Because they are all owned by the same company...This is a call out to ALL MOGGERS. As most of you know, American radio, has taken a turn for the worst over the last few years. In 1987 the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE was overturned by then President Reagan. It left the local public radio airways, which once belonged to all of us, to be bought up and be held hostage, by just a few owners such as CLEAR CHANNEL. That is why everytown, every station sounds the same.Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), along with Representatives Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), and Louise Slaughter (D-NY) have announced their support of legislation which would reverse the 1987 FCC decision to restore the Fairness Doctrine.[5][6] This is IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.....the radiowaves need to go back into the hands of locals, who are willing to play regional, independent and local music.Please, take a moment to call your local congressman. Tell them to RE-Instate the Fairness Doctrine- (here is a link, in case you need their number)http://www.house.gov/writerep/..Tell your friends..PLEASE HELP SAVE RADIO.....Before it's dead forever
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  1. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says The One has nothing to do with the other. The "fairness doctrine" as proposed is nothing more than a thinly disguised torpedo aimed at free speech and public discourse. That so many radio stations belong to clear channel is simply the result of market forces and the dynamics of an open economy. It was only after the public CLEARLY ROARED it's disapproval for the bogus 'immigration reform' bill, that certain members of Congress, on both sides of the aisle decided to seek remedy in the Orwillian "fairness Doctrine". Let's face it, its aimed squarly at LOCALLY OWNED talk radio stations coast to coast. The powers that be wish to silence the (conservative) voice of the people. That talk radio is overwhelmingly conservative goes very far up certain tight asses. That talk radio is the result of market forces matters not a whit to these "guardians of the realm". That AM radio would gladly have very liberal talkshows as well if that's what their audience wanted, they follow the money after all, goes right over their pointed little heads.I do not wish to have ANY PART of government dictated radio or TV programming. This is America, not the Soviet Union.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  2. missjunk
    missjunk says I disagree 100%. This post is about music. Not politics. You are either with the Corporations and their corporate music playlists, or you are against them. I am against them. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  3. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says You can certainly disagree, you're entitled to your opinion. But it doesn't change the facts. Corporations are the backbone of America. Destroy them, you destroy us. The business of America is business. Don't get me wrong, missjunk, I feel your frustration, and I share your disdain for corporate greed and curruption. The deregulation of FCC control over ownership of markets and the like have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the "fairness Doctrine" you cite. The "doctrine" is the ultimate political intrusion on our universe, not my comments. Unforntunately, by NOT making the connection between the politics and the facts the voters are often hoodwinked into hearing the soundbites and not hearing the discussion. DO you really want the Government dictateing radio programming? Yes or no?
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  4. Anonymous says all for it!
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  5. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says WHAT!!!????
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  6. slrevare
    slrevare says I agree commercial, over-the air radio is in dire straits. Everything is pre-programmed pablum. However, what I see happening now is unprecedented. I have never had more choices to hear the music I like. Thanks to Internet radio (which faces its own attacks from the very industry it supports), iPods, satellite radio, and public radio, and cable/satellite TV audio (like Music Choice), I've never had so many ways to hear the music I like. Even in the 1970s radio sucked in Kansas City. Ironically, I have much more choice and am exposed to more new stuff through things like MOG and LastFM than ever before. I stopped listening to commercial over-the-air radio in 1984 when KLZR went off the air in Lawrence, KS, so today's radio muck doesn't bother me. I use my only weapon as a consumer: I don't listen. Listenership is dwindling. That hurts all of the station owners in the only place that should matter to them, the bottom line.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  7. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says Right on, slrevare. So correct.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  8. dermahrk
    dermahrk says Too late. It's dead to me - I don't listen since I bought my iPod.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  9. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says Exactly, let the medium adapt or go the way of Duran Duran, still around but totally irrelevant. I must confess, I DO listen to commercial radio backnforth to work. I have six presets set. Classic rock (sucks) Adult cutting edge contemporary, (rather bland but adventerous at times) sports talk radio 1 & 2. NPR (NOT for their socialist agenda, just the diversity of it's programming.) and one (gulp) classical. Most of the time its sports radio #2.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  10. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says ~sOMZxxh1gPi.mp3~
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  11. missjunk
    missjunk says Anything to save the airways- which belong to the PEOPLE, all the people, is what I'm for.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  12. missjunk
    missjunk says In case you need to have forgotten, here is the definition of MONOPOLY. A monopoly is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a product or service, in other words a firm that has no competitors within it's market. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. Clear Channel is a MONOPOLY.
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  13. Iren
    Iren says All I want to say is that it's not the "In 1987 the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE was overturned by then President Reagan." that caused the Clear Channel Monopoly it was the "Telecommunications Act of 1996":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996 signed by Bill Clinton ....
    Permalink posted 07/28/2007
  14. dermahrk
    dermahrk says Yes, MissJunk, radio is in the hands of big corporations and divestiture MIGHT improve the diversity of programming. But "The Fairness Doctrine" ONLY has to do with political opinions, not music, so I think Deadmandeadman is right about that.
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  15. missjunk
    missjunk says Thanks for that IREN.
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  16. dermahrk
    dermahrk says OK, I'll bite. I just went to acronymfinder.com (a great site, BTW) and none of the definitions seem to fit. So, IREN means?
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  17. missjunk
    missjunk says Thank you Dermahrk. Deadmandeadman and I disagree politically always, (though I still love him dearly in every other way) If the Fairness Doctrine, is only about TALK RADIO and not about MUSIC RADIO, I would still approve of it 100%. Not everyone in America is linked up to the ol' Internet for their music or their information. A move to the heartland recently proved that point to me. I spend my summers driving up and down the non-interstate highways, stopping in every town/village/city I can find (as an antique dealer) The whole center of America is pretty rural and many people, (esp. older people) only have access to the radio. If they are only getting one view, regardless if its MUSIC OR TALK, regardless of which side it is, wouldn't that be letting a large part of our nation, go un-informed?? {Just one more note I would like to share. The city is not like the country. I am scared by what I am seeing here in the heartland. A recent trip through Iowa, Missouri and Southern lllinois small towns, I have seen more KKK's and and painted swastikas painted on buildings, than you all can imagine. I also seen a burning cross painted on a doorway. The heartland is in trouble people.... }
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  18. Iren
    Iren says Iren has no real meaning, it's just a name that I stumbled upon years ago that has stuck as my log in for a lot of things on the net.... if you say it aloud I-Ren it almost sounds like Iron.... Radio Radio.... somethings have to die before they can come back. The simple truth is that radio has always been a evolving format. When my parents where children the big thing on radio was scripted dramas, and as time went on and TV took over that role, music became a dominate force in radio. Even before the telecom act of '96 radio had become bland, marketed, hyped and in the pocket of major labels. Sure there were more songs on the average weekly play list, but those 30 odd tunes were not all the same...... What often gets missed in this mess is that the PUBLIC owns the airwaves, and they are rented to broadcasters... broadcasters who have for decades not had to pay real fees for their use. They have also often not lived up to their mandate to provide access to the local community as part of their being able to use the air waves. as a medium radio is right where they were when TV took over as the main source of scripted drama for the population.... Talk and News radio is what I think we are going to see in the future as the dominate content on the airwaves... yes there will be music as well, but as people more and more turn off the radio and turn on their MP3 players in their cars and when in transit, we are going to see music radio become less and less important... As for the heartland not having access to the internet, yep I can see that, but I also have seen that a lot of these areas have a lot of satellite TV which means that they have a lot of options when tuning in news stations, everything from local news, to national, PBS, CNN, Fox news, but also CBC from Canada, the various BBC outlets and who knows what else.
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  19. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says Thanx, Missjunk, Your kind words are appreciated. And you're still wrong. Out in the heartland you find what you look for. ANYWHERE in the country, a radio station is a business. If it could generate revenue flow pushing the NPR's socialist agenda it would do so. If they could make money playing good music, they would do so, no? The whole point, all the way back at the beginning of your non-political post, was that corporate greed and monolithic business structure would somehow be diminished by the "fairness Doctrine". The issues are in no way related. The Dems, under Bill Clinton, deregulated the airwave to allow their friends in the media consolidate to their hold on said media, and drive down compitition. The "fairness Doctrine" forces opinions on an audience that is not looking for that. Just as you told me once Missjunk, you think I watch too much fox news. Carried to it's logical absurdist extreme, your brethen in washington would try to force me to watch CNN so I could get their spin. C'mon, we don't need anymore government censorship. Doesn't anyone believe in market forces?
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  20. missjunk
    missjunk says I'm not against market forces. I would just like all Americans, to be given the opportunity to hear both points of view, for FREE. Yes I can buy XM radio, but most of my neighbors here don't, so why should I have to pay? What are you so afraid of? What is wrong with 50/50? What is wrong with hearing both points of view? You can believe or not believe whatever you want, but at least you should be able to hear both sides. Make your own choices. For example, Illinois, my new home is a blue state. If you get 30 miles away from Chicago, you would never guess it. Most of the am & fm radio dial is Christian Rock and Republican. That's it. There are no choices for someone like me. Is that fair? Yet the airways, last time I checked, belonged to all of us. But I guess not me, because I look different... oh wait, I mean "think different" Did the Nazi government want their people to be openminded?? Nope, no way. That's why they shut down all opposing views. Sounds kinda familiar.
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  21. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says But Missjunk, No government agency mandates what your radio stations play. That's decided by WHO'S LISTENING. If their audience wants christion rock than christian rock they shall have. ETC ETC ETC Sad to say your point of view seems to be in the minority. It is not, nor should it be, the Gov's business who's listening to what. I live between Boston and Provodence I wish to the goddess that there was some conservative radio around here somewhere. Basically though, that's OK by me. BTW Illinois is a Blue state by virtue of it's cities. Take away the large entitlement crowd in urban areas and the state glows like a cherry. Check out the voting record, county by county in each of the last ten elections. My point is...less government:GOOD More government:BAD
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  22. Iren
    Iren says Deadman... here is where NPR is playing the kind of music that most people on Mog are into... it's called "The Current":http://minnesota.publicradio.org/radio/services/the_current/ ....
    Permalink posted 07/29/2007
  23. mousetrap
    mousetrap says While I'm tired of the dominance of conservative talk entertainers, I make the choice simply not to listen to any of that garbage - meaning talk radio of any persuasion - and oddly enough, I find myself more serene and accepting. I hear the birds singing, and I pause to enjoy rainbows. As far as the Fairness Doctrine is concerned, I take the admittedly pessimistic view that reinstating it wouldn't really improve things much. The biggest problem in my eyes is the implicit assumption that politics and personal philosophies are binary - that there are only two points of view on any given issue. missjunk says, "What is wrong with 50/50? What is wrong with hearing both points of view? You can believe or not believe whatever you want, but at least you should be able to hear both sides." Are there really only two sides to be heard? Is life really that simple? Is there no nuance to the various challenges we face? I'd argue that there is...and so I wouldn't envy the radio exec saddled with the responsibility of figuring out who should get airtime to balance out Rush Limbaugh. Or Sean Hannity. Or James Dobson. Who would you put on the air to balance Art Bell, if he were still broadcasting - James Randi? It seems incredibly unwieldy and unmanageable to me. BTW, Iren, on a completely separate note - it's your fault I'm a MOGger, thanks to an audio comment you submitted to the Coverville podcast some time ago. So you have that on your conscience now...
    Permalink posted 07/30/2007
  24. missjunk
    missjunk says Thanks MouseTrapMedia, you are right on several points. I guess I just like things to be fair, I like things to be equal, I like everybody to have the same opportunities. But I guess, that all goes back to my days at playing CandyLand... things seemed much fairer then.... Move ahead two purple squares, through the GumDrop Fields, past the CandyCane Forest into the Sugar Fairy's Castle.....
    Permalink posted 07/30/2007
  25. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says We all miss the simpler times, Deb. We look back in a melancholy state of mind at our sepia toned memories of more innocent times, and sigh. This was a great discussion and I thank you, even though you thought you'd created Frankenstien's monster! Sometimes its good to chew on the issues. I think we all learn, and we all teach in these things. Thanks again.
    Permalink posted 07/30/2007
  26. slrevare
    slrevare says Three things I would like to point out. First, the internet is available in just about every school and public library in the country, and we pay lots of money on each of our phone bills to make sure that access to the internet is affordable in rural areas. Secondly, I have a big problem with saying that the government, like the Nazis, is shutting down all opposing views. There's a big difference between shutting down AirAmerica and it failing to be a viable commercial enterprise on its own. Yes, the deck is stacked against a liberal talk show immediately being heard in as many markets as Rush, simply because he has built up his network over many years. All points of view do have the same opportunities. Are there flaws? Sure, but the system is as fair as we can make it. Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Yes, his rabid listeners take him as a political leader. That's their choice and their problem if they don't seek out opposing points of view. Here in KC we have a community radio station that has fallen off the deep-end on the left. I don't listen to them or Rush Limbaugh. Life's too short and it takes away from my music-listening time. :-) Thirdly, I think that the Democratic/Republican debate is a farce, their fake political debate designed to distract us from the fact that they're both really all the same. Look at Bush/Kerry. Both wealthier than shit, both went to the same exclusive Ivy League school, both in the same fraternal organizations. They're all corrupt. If we let the government start deciding whose opinion is worth being on the radio, we're doomed! Doomed I tell you! They'll shut down Candyland due to a excessive promotion of High Fructose Corn Syrup!
    Permalink posted 07/31/2007
  27. missjunk
    missjunk says Thanks for that post SLREVARE, I think that is true, one thing you said, I have to argue with. You said Rush is an entertainer, that is true, and it's their choice to listen or not, that is NOT TRUE. If all you are hearing on the radio, is one point of view, you really don't have a choice. Some times when I'm driving in northern Missouri, I can get Rush on up to 11 different stations on the a.m. dial. I guess all I'm saying is, I think we, as America can do better.
    Permalink posted 07/31/2007
  28. Real Gone Kid
    Real Gone Kid says This post fascinates me. :) And thank you re the Bright Eyes comment! Steven
    Permalink posted 08/10/2007

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