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Posted almost 5 years ago
I'm bored. Here's a clip that makes me laugh. While we're on the subject of boredom, I gotta say that I've given Belle & Sebastian, and The New Pornographers a bit of a chance and they just don't do it for me. Talking about what I don't like bores me too, I don't usually do it. I bring it up in the hopes that some of you can suggest THE album to try by each band before I make up my mind. These were just the first 2 that came to mind (as I find myself often skipping their songs on my ipod). Oh, and one more thing (which will surely leave me ducking) - Elliott Smith. Not saying I don't like him. I only encountered his music this year, the first time was watching Jem Cohen's film, and it really moved me, in particular the song "Between the Bars", which I still think is great. But I find myself only thinking a few songs here and there are really good. I was very convinced that I would really like him - so name THE Smith album that will have me running to him like the co-dependent barfly that my inner muse really is.
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Comments (39)

  1. Smooth Hegemon
    Smooth Hegemon says Which Belle and Sebastian albums have you already taken a stab at?
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  2. walterculboon
    walterculboon says tigermilk is the one
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  3. thill
    thill says that is cheating smooth hegemon! i have to agree with you on ALL counts. I think I should like Belle and Sebastian more than i do. I just saw them on tv last night doing two songs off their new album and I really did like them. She's Losing It is one of my FAVORITE songs of all time though. Elliott Smith. I like a song here or there but i way too much of a depressive to put him on. i cannot take it. New Pornographers also hit and miss with me.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  4. kristiana
    kristiana says one, which one, walter? Rach (is Rach ok?), I don't even know, sometimes I just don't remember things like names of albums or songs unless they really stuck (I think this was a subconscious reaction to growing up with the boys always talking/arguing the merits of this that and the other album by so and so. silly huh? but probably true, knowing me! ;) I'm just looking for people to tell me what they think is the best/most convincing album by each...
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  5. Smooth Hegemon
    Smooth Hegemon says Fair enough, thill. It's midterms. I'm sick of the honor code. I'm a pretty big fan of Belle and Sebastian although I will admit some of their stuff is pretty snooze-worthy. I like every track on the album _Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant_, and "The Chalet Lines" is one of the most gut-wrenching songs I've heard to date. "This is Just a Modern Rock Song," "If You're Feeling Sinister," and "Like Dylan in the Movies" are poppy, interesting, and wry individual tracks. Speaking of French children's shows, anyone else LOVE _Maya the Bee_ when they were a kid?
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  6. Rawkkiddoh
    Rawkkiddoh says I am with you on everything but Belle and Sebastian. Love that band, love the music.Also love the girls gone wild video you posted.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  7. kaleef
    kaleef says i like tigermilk by belle and sebastian (but i have not listened to them all, and i wouldn't condsider myself a reliable fan, they can come and go for me) but i do love elliott smith. i liked him when he was in heatmiser, and i liked his solo stuff even more. i would recommend "xo" or "either/or" as a good all-around album by him. and if i can say something without saying anything? he killed himself by stabbing his heart..............twice. i believe most great art comes from those who are tortured or tormented in some way. you can hear it; his came from _something._
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  8. Wozniak
    Wozniak says I really like Elliot Smith's self-titled (since Anna will wring my neck if I say eponymous, and homonymous just sounds off) album.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  9. Smooth Hegemon
    Smooth Hegemon says In high school my nickname on our debate team was "Turbo-Heeb: Spewer of Arguments." "Rach" is a-ok with me. :)
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  10. walterculboon
    walterculboon says sorry kristiana tigermilk is the belle and sebastian album to try. however if it's indivdual tracks by belle and sebastian then check out lazy line painter jane and/or jonathan david
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  11. kristiana
    kristiana says So glad to know I'm not the only one, Teresa ;) Then again, I'm not surprised, since you were one of my first trusted moggers. Where the hell you been at anyway? You have posted more this week eh? Ok, thanks for the recommendations Rach! I'm gonna blow $50 on itunes today so am eager for any other suggestions anyone might have. The only band I've heard for the first time lately and thought were pretty decent on first listen were the Silversun Pickups.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  12. Rawkkiddoh
    Rawkkiddoh says If you want to cheat a little try the Push Barman to Open Old Wounds. Its a collection of all their EP's, and for a two disc set its a nice price. I could put it on multiply if you would like.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  13. walterculboon
    walterculboon says Push barman is a great collection however I hate the version of "the state i am in" on that album I much prefer the tigermilk version
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  14. Rawkkiddoh
    Rawkkiddoh says I completely agree walter
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  15. kristiana
    kristiana says Kaleef - I know, I know! XO didn't really do it for me, though. Is Either/Or similar? I think I've heard it, but not positive. What about the self-titled one Woz mentioned? thanks Walter. Kev - Tura Satana, yeah yeah!
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  16. Rawkkiddoh
    Rawkkiddoh says Tura Satana?
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  17. kristiana
    kristiana says Kev, I don't really do the multiply thing anymore, only to look at Uni's photos sometimes. I was sorta torn the whole time about whether it was right to be "sharing" music, well, in particular when it comes to smaller artists. Is this silly? I'm still not sure!
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  18. thill
    thill says kristiana: i have had life interfering with my mogging...i would go with tigermilk as well. It has She's Losing It on it.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  19. kristiana
    kristiana says Tura Satana - the sexy lady delivering the karate chops to dweeb #1.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  20. kristiana
    kristiana says Teresa - life interfering is always a good thing! How are the twins? Thanks for the recommendations, y'all! Tigermilk it is.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  21. Rawkkiddoh
    Rawkkiddoh says I have been using it just to get some bands that I want to listen to, and down the line when I am working again will buy the album. I like having a digital music collection, but owning the cd is so much more for me. When I download stuff, I still make it a point to go buy the album. If its an artist I am unsure of, I think of it as a test drive. If I listen and I like it, I will get the album soon. If not, it goes in the recycle bin and no harm done. Its why I head over to Barnes and Nobel once a week, to listen to new artists that I have heard of on MOG. I feel bad when I download the music, but every band I have ever downloaded I have gone and bought the album. I guess its kind of like putting something away on layaway.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  22. kristiana
    kristiana says Yeah, I've thought about it like that, for sure - but then asked my lazy self, "WILL I go buy it if I already have it?". I know myself well enough, lol.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  23. Rawkkiddoh
    Rawkkiddoh says I cant stand having a cd with out having the actual cd. Must be the OCD in me.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  24. Anonymous says
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  25. goodmusiconly
    goodmusiconly says I got your back on this one kristiana: Listen to Elliott's _From a Basement on the Hill_ FIRST. Turn the first track up loud, and give the CD a few spins before you make your decision. A little history - I came across Elliott years before this album came out and brushed him off as too light and poppy for my taste. But after hearing _Basement_ a few times my opinon completely changed, and now (as I emphatically state on my page) am fanatical about him. Don't pass it up! I also recommend Silversun Pickups, try out the EP Pikul if you want to spend just a few bucks and just get your toes wet.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  26. Daviso
    Daviso says You gotta love Russ Meyer. I always thought that some of his other ones had some strange tennessee williams themes going on...
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  27. 1234chainsaw
    1234chainsaw says Regarding B&S, I'm not a big fan but somehow I seem to have most of their stuff. I'd go first with the early EPs, but for an album I'd say Tigermilk as well. Regarding the New Pornographers, something tells me that the bit more ramshackle and aggressive sound of their debut, Mass Romantic, might sit well with you. The power-popper in me really likes that record, partly because it's clearly influenced by Pointed Sticks.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  28. Anonymous says fold your hands boy, yu look like a peasant - or whatever it's called.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  29. ookpik
    ookpik says I know everyone always says Tigermilk (first album and all that), but I think album #2, "If You're Feeling Sinister," is where it's at for B&S. It's got all the good aspects of Tigermilk (simple, melodic, twee as all fuck) plus a bit... MORE. Funnier lyrics, better horn parts, more tambourine, more sex, higher ratio of upbeat:sappy (but you still get Fox In The Snow and Boy Done Wrong Again if you like the sappy songs). If that doesn't work, The Life Pursuit sounds like it was made by a separate band, so you could try that. And that video clip is killing me. It's totally Broads Gone Wild.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  30. Spike
    Spike says That clip from _Faster, Pussycat Kill! Kill"_ by Russ Meyer may or may not have lyrical links to Elliot Smith, but in any case, the first time I saw the film some thirty-odd years ago, a woman I knew happened to walk by while I was waiting in line for a ticket, and so I had a lot of explaining to do. During the film, two women sitting right in front of me made out the whole time. heybuddy's YouTube offering had end credits that said that the animation was by Robert Breer. He's been one of America's top underground film-makers since the 1950's, and I used to know him pretty well. I loved Moonshild's soundtrack cut.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  31. kristiana
    kristiana says Spike, funny stuff! Cool that Buddy's clip had a connection for you, I liked the sound of it. Thanks Matt! Pekka, thanks for the input, and you're probably right about the NP. I'm more and more convinced that Tigermilk it is, although I like Ookpik's take on it too - ah, only so much money! GMO, I suspect your advice is on the mark. Will do.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  32. Universalis
    Universalis says ° ° Kristiana, talking about Belle&Seb, or Silversun Pickups or Rainer Maria or We Are Scientists or some similar stuff it might be a good idea to log on Multiply & look here: http://nicksjs.multiply.com/music
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  33. Drummond76
    Drummond76 says For Elliot Smith I like the self titled album for acoustic stuff, if you want more orchestral, fancy arrangements go with X/O or From a Basement... I really like Belle and Sebastian so I would reccomend If you are feeling Sinister or The boy with the Arab Strap albums. Some of the later ones have great songs but aren't as consistant. The earlier stuff is more Zombies or Donovan while the later stuff is definitely more 70's influence- Bowie etc. If you're looking for new things similar to these I'd check out Sweden's Shout Out Louds or Earlimart. Another current fave is Ed Harcourt. Definitely check him out.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  34. Wade
    Wade says Elliot Smith: Either Or is, in IMHO, his masterpiece. It is much different from XO, very sparse, not much orchestration. Belle and Sebastian: If you're feeling sinister is my favorite-all songs are great except the title track.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  35. tybees
    tybees says Kristiana, I'm not sure if you're familiar with eMusic but you can get any of the B & S albums mentioned above as well as any NP record there for way less money than iTunes. They have an offer of 100 free mp3's as a trial version "here":http://www.emusic.com/iskin, and you get to keep the mp3's. This comes highly recommended by myself, and no I do not represent eMusic :) But, seeing as how you're in Canada this might not be available to you (sorry if it isn't) Oh and I have never been able to get into B & S. Especially the newer record, ??Life Pursuit??, snoooree. I love all 3 NP records though, but ??Twin Cinema?? is the best.
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  36. Mike the Knife
    Mike the Knife says Seriously, kristiana, who gives a damn about music when Varla is kickin' ass? Now, that's a symphony. Varla rules!!!
    Permalink posted 03/01/2007
  37. Universalis
    Universalis says ° ° Ha ha old movie still rocks 8)))) Not sure that link still works, but maybe yes 8)) http://www.fulldls.com/downloading_movies_71291 Also the name Faster Pussycat was taken by a rock-hard rock band (it was some clone of Mötley Crüe) in early 90'ties. Now not related at all, as i wrote i just saw the first black Kite for this year, Spring is approaching or they would not be back here !!! great day today 8)))
    Permalink posted 03/02/2007
  38. kaleef
    kaleef says hi kristiana, i asked unku miku (another elliott admirer), and he agrees with GMO. go with From a Basement on a Hill first ~ hope this helps!
    Permalink posted 03/02/2007
  39. RGM
    RGM says Tami Down's was the singer, own rack club called "the Cathouse" in L.A., dated a Chick I knew...I think he threw these underground party's called the Scream back in the 80's...
    Permalink posted 03/03/2007

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