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The Little Records: Babes in Toyland (Part 1)

Posted over 2 years ago
December is the month of the phonograph record. I made that up. But it is. I'll be observing it all month at my mog and I encourage you to observe it with me. For the original post declaring December the month of the phonograph record, click here. Join the conversation!Years ago, I was a punk rock drummer. Years ago, when I was a punk rock drummer, this happened:I was at a party at Babes in Toyland drummer Lori Barbero's house. It was in the basement of her house - where Babes practiced. In the basement people were passing instruments and making music. I watched for awhile. It was okay. After a few rotations it was Kat Bjelland with her guitar (Kat sang and played guitar in Babes), Lori at her drums, and through the fog of memory I think I see a guy from Jonestown playing bass. Again, it was okay. It was okay and it was amazing: I was pressed against musicians I had loved since my teens in a basement where my head knocked against pipes. I was in high school when I bought the Babes in Toyland Peel Sessions on 10" vinyl. I had never heard them. My record player (which I bought from my mom's stylist) was broken so I went to a friend's house and put it on in his bedroom while he lifted weights in another room. I stared at the picture on the cover. I didn't know any women who looked like they did. They looked like they knew things I didn't even know I didn't know. The music was blistering. I was entranced. I was 17 and I felt so young when I looked at them and listened to them. All of my friends were guys. Would I ever know women like that? In Lori's basement I was not thinking about being 17. In my friend's bedroom, I would never have guessed what was going to happen in Lori's basement.Lori stopped playing and motioned me over with her sticks. I made my way to her and she put the sticks in my hand. I sat down at her drums and looked at Kat. Kat smiled and scraped at her low strings. The guy from Jonestown handed the bass to Michelle Leon, who had left Babes years earlier and had been succeeded by a parade of less perfect matches. All I knew about Michelle was that sometime after she had left the band, she had opened a flower shop. What happened next is hazy at best. Did we make good music or bad music? I was not in the moment - I was outside of it and outside of myself. I only knew that I - or somebody who looked and played like me - was playing drums in Babes in Toyland. Women I had first met on an album cover were looking at me, then at their instruments, then back at me again. It didn't last long. After just a few minutes I did the right thing: I handed the sticks back to Lori, stood close to her, and watched a Babes in Toyland reunion.

Comments (21)

  1. DUSTdevils says what ever happened to Stu from "Lubricated Goat" ?
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  2. jsguntzel says You know, he's here in NYC last I heard.
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  3. jsguntzel says And what a great band. From time to time, I hear Stu growling: "Even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper: get fucked."
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  4. DUSTdevils says HaHaHa... that's Stu...
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  5. lemontwist says Coolness. You know, I don't think I've heard any Babes In Toyland yet. Shame on me.
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  6. kristiana says Yessss! Awesome story! I was just watching The Year That Punk Broke the other day, it had been a long long time since I had seen it. The clip of Babes just had me enthralled - look at those women rock! In dresses and high heels, no less. I really appreciate this post after all the talk of rock and sexism this weekend. There were some people claiming that there are no truly rockin' women out there - I wanted to pull my hair out. Even thought about writing a post about this very band, but you've done a fine job. Somehow people haven't "liked" this to the top of that otherwise pretty boring list today. For shame.
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  7. jsguntzel says Yeah, Kat screaming and spitting in heels was a truly remarkable sight. And that Year That Punk Broke footage is amazing. Haven't seen it since it was first released...saw it at a University of Minnesota theater with my brother. If I remember correctly, there is some great footage also of Thurston record shopping. It really is starting to seem like if you are thinking about something, I will soon be posting about it.
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  8. kristiana says I know eh? Very convenient, thanks my man! A lot of the footage is pretty funny. And made me feel old, heh heh. Dig it up somewhere, it was quite fun to watch again. And thanks for "introducing" me to Andrew - I'm starting to wonder if this was not maybe a clever plan of yours to get two possibly quite similar people to motivate each other? Well, it might work out that way whether you meant it or not. Wah wah, I wish I was in a band again...lol (for the record, this is me laughing at me, but Andrew can feel free to laugh at himself if he wants). Cheers!
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  9. jsguntzel says Fore the uninitiated...here is a Babes in Toyland video. Below that is the footage Kristiana was referring to...the footage from the great documentary "The Year That Punk Broke." To pick up on what Kristiana was saying about the "chicks can't rock" conversation...my first reaction is YAWN. My next reaction is to begin listing in my head all of the women who rock. But that's too easy. Better perhaps to just keep a pocket list of all the men who do not rock.
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  10. andrew lau says I actually am laughing…laughing to keep from crying. I wasn’t AT this particular party with Guntzel. Where was I? Only history can say. I would’ve liked to have played with Babes In Toyland...or at least watched. Or at least asked Michelle Leon out on a date. Kinda like when I missed EVERY SINGLE party Prince threw at Paisley Park inthe summer of '98. Kinda like when I missed that Cheap Trick show at First Ave when they did Heaven Tonight in it's entirety AND THEN Aerosmith (ALL OF THEM!) (who were playing across the street at the Target Center) joined them on stage for "some songs" (i.e. a 1/2 hour of covers).
    Permalink posted 12/10/2006
  11. jenny says Awesome, Jeff, what a story. The new bass player for Mudhoney was in Lubricated Goat, wasn't he? Huge guy...makes the bass look like a ukele.
    Permalink posted 12/11/2006
  12. jsguntzel says I hadn't heard that. Crazy. Since this comment section started with a bit about Lubricated Goat, I should probably make the connection: Lubricated Goat has a guy name Stu in it. He sang and played guitar. He was married to Kat from Babes in Toyland for a spell. Together with drummer Russel Simins (of the Blues Explosion) they had a band - briefly - called Crunt. Crunt was great. Here's Crunt:
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  13. Iren says I remember listening to Babes in Toyland and not getting it, it wasn't that they didn't rock or what ever, it was that I didn't connect with the music at the time, and have never gotten around to checking them out again... have to dig around and see if I still have the BiT tape somewhere..
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  14. jsguntzel says I have no idea what I'd think if I came upon Babes in Toyland now. I don't listen to them much anymore, though there are some songs that will always make me happy. They were really important to me as I discovered punk rock. They had tapped into something few others ever accessed.
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  15. daniel muro lamere says Never happened. Just a ploy to get himself further up the movers and shakers list. Incidentally, Frank Black isn't too far above you, and has yet to post anything. Also, in the numero uno position, (i.e. page one of Movers and Shakers) is that guy from Death Cab for Cutie. If they aren't an overrated band, I don't know who is. But they toured with Ted Leo, so I guess that counts for something. Either way, clearly those two dudes are only movers and shakers because, allegedly, they're SOMEBODIES, not on the basis of mogging merit. If there's any justice in the world, their spots will be taken, placing you squarely on the bottom of page one. Congratulations on moving and shaking.
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  16. daniel muro lamere says regarding babes in toyland, couldn't do it then, can't do it now. too trucker rock or something for my tastes. all the same, during my punk rock days and after hers, i suppose, lori barbero used to come into extreme noise with some consignment stuff she had. she was always very pleasant to deal with. the end.
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  17. kateherself says I love Babes in Toyland.
    Permalink posted 12/11/2006
  18. kristiana says Dan, Frank isn't even on this site anymore, how about that! He opted out after a couple of weeks or something. Yeah, don't you love the way people blow sunshine up the arses of the "known" people on here? Freakin' groupies! They even do it with the people from the mog offices! Me, I'm a sucker for the great writers and punsters ;)
    Permalink posted 12/11/2006
  19. daniel muro lamere says kristiana: http://mog.com/browse?page=2 check it out. frank black. sorry it's not a live link, but i'm kind of slow. also, is that an inside joke? are you from "the mog offices"? is that just a couple of plastic lawn chairs and a laptop in the elevator of an office building? fastnbulbous: don't be so sure. just sayin'.
    Permalink posted 12/11/2006
  20. kristiana says yeah, that's what I mean - he used to have a full page, and even post things. But then he changed his mind. Or maybe his wife decided he didn't need yet another distraction? Or maybe they stopped paying him to be on this site? Kidding (maybe). No inside jokes here - just saying, if anyone from the Mog offices makes a post, no matter how mundane, it will get many comments and "likes". I hear the office is very slick - cotton candy machines and never-ending rainbows. And bunnies. Soft soft cuddly bunnies.
    Permalink posted 12/11/2006
  21. daniel muro lamere says "never-ending" ? i don't think so. but seriously, death cab for cutie. if i never hear one more lauditory comment about them, my life will be that much sweeter.
    Permalink posted 12/11/2006

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