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The herd speaks...

Posted about 1 year ago
The big Idolator poll (http://pop.idolator.com/tag/idolator-pop-07/) went up today, agglomerating the results of some 454 critics. I was a participant, and if you have somehow missed my several-month-long pontification on 2007, you can check my ballot here:http://pop.idolator.com/331581/ballot-jennifer-kellyI have mixed feelings about these averagings of critical preferences, since all the interesting oddities get cancelled out and we learn, quel surpise, that a lot of people like Radiohead, Spoon, LCD Sound System and Kanye. But the ballots are cool. I could spend all day reading them, especially ones like my Harp Editor, Fred Mills', which includes a couple of fairly long essays on the state of the music world. Anyway, part of me is still astonished that anyone cares which records I liked any given year, but another part is pissed that no one pays attention to the ones I single out, ahem, Kilgour. It's an interesting combination of humility and hubris...perhaps someday my head will explode from it?I did a little better capturing the zeitgeist this year than last, though, admittedly it's a relative thing. My number 2, the National, came in 7 overall, and my #10, Okkervil River was in the 20s. Kilgour got four other votes besides mine...which seems like a minor victory. Even better, only one of my picks was a loner, which is to say, i was the only person to vote for it. Surprisingly, it was Frightened Rabbit. I would have expected to be alone on Glenn Mercer or the Papercuts, but they got two and one other votes, respectively. In the reissues category, I picked Young Marble Giants, just like almost everyone else, and Fire Engines, like a very surprising number of people. They both beat Led Zeppelin's Mothership, which says something...not sure what. But my #2 pick, the fantastic True West reissue, came in at exactly 100. No matter. They were always underdogs. They were always great.Pazz & Jop is still to come, and they skew older, so I'd look for Springsteen closer to the top but basically the same nexus of mainstream indie respectability in the money categories. Hey, how could it be pop if it weren't popular? Hey, but how about 2008, already well way for us long-advance people, and already bringing some pretty great tunes? (Kelley Stoltz, Bon Iver, Mahjongg, Magnetic Fields, Sons & Daughters, to name a few.) Out with the old, in with the new, that's what I say. Let's get on with it.

Comments (14)

  1. watchbatteries says I tend to read Idolator a lot, so it's interesting to see someone who contributes to the poll. While I tended to agree with the majority of the poll, nothing was surprising. I'll be honest, I've never heard of David Kilgour (blame it on my youth), so it's nice to see more of a surprising pick. Concerning the re-issues, I enjoyed the Fire Engines release, which was again an introduction for me. Beating out Led Zep doesn't seem like much of a stretch-"Mothership" was a greatest hits package. Methinks that critics gave it really high scores and extremely favorable reviews because, well, it's Led Zeppelin.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  2. LambCurry666 says As hard as I try to listen to as much music as possible, I did not hear 7 albums from your top ten. How deflating....At least I have some more records to add to my Lala Want list. Just read this morning of a new Mountain Goats record to be released next month. Goodie.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  3. jenny says Well, as I say, the average is the average, but the ballots are interesting as hell. I wish they were searchable by artist, the way Pazz and Jop's are...then you can go, okay, this critic really liked the Twilight Sad, what else is he/she excited about? I would be incredibly flattered if anyone ever decided to check out an album because it's on my list. I really try to forget about what everyone else is probably going to vote for and just concentrate on the records that made me happy. so I might be wrong, but I'm sincere. Or something like that.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  4. LambCurry666 says Well, I added all 7 to my list, so hopefully I will be checking them out. I agree with your thinking - I think there is a meaningful difference between a critic or fan creating a list of favorites where the goal is to share music that you loved and connected with vs some objective list of music based on rating criteria like creativity, musicianship, etc. When I was creating my favorites list, I thought it was interesting that several albums would not have been included if I was trying to objectively rate the "best" albums of the year and certain albums that, in retrospect, I think are objectively great like Strawberry Jam, were not included because I had not connected with them.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  5. RobP says Get flattered, Jen, I always check out yr recommendations. Of course, you're wrong a lot, but then I get to mock you, and what are friends for?
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  6. jenny says You know, I never actually listened to the new Animal Collective...a couple of people I respect said they were disappointed and I just never made time for it. I did listen quite a bit to Panda Bear, and even interviewed him about Person Pitch, but I kind of lost momentum with that album after a while. As you say, maybe it was objectively good, but I didn't connect very strongly with it. And oh, Rob, I admit I'm shorter than average, shy in company and kind of inept with punctuation...but wrong? When have I failed you?
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  7. DerekSunshine says Good stuff. I agree about finding the individual ballots more interesting than the results.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  8. LambCurry666 says Yeah, the Panda Bear didn't do it for me, as much as I tried. I actually started connecting with the Animal Collective record last night (so bad example on my part)...
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  9. ROCKNROLLPIMP says "They both beat Led Zeppelin's Mothership, which says something" that ppl do not *RAWK* anymore! that's what.they just kinda shoe gaze n droll along shit yr taste? half my shit was not on ANY BODY'S LIST ANYWHERE you are awol from the the riaa knitting factory again i see the damage is done it matters not i have been listening to the Fucking Champs the last 3 hours......WOOOOOOOO
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  10. RobP says You don't fail me, Jen, you just don't 100% agree with me, which makes you wrong. Of course, I'm working on having a top ten for 2007 by 2009, based on checking out a lotta stuff recommended by you and a few other trustworthies, but I bet I don't hear anything good enough to knock QOTSA outa my top ten anyhow. Also of course, it took me a helluva long time to really get into the Jesu album, which seems to be permanently embedded in my car player right now, so maybe some of these others will work their way up as well. Anyway, my current goal is to spend no money between now and next Tuesday, when I get paid and the new Drive-By Truckers comes out. Goal? what am i thinking? I don't HAVE any money between now and Tuesday. But there's sure a lotta new kids crap around the house. maybe i'll play 3s & 7s on Guitar Hero 3.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  11. jenny says Keith, hi, yeah, when sites start calling their customers leeches and talking about lawsuits, it's time to go. Plus, you can't really stream anything on dial-up, so there was very little upside, musically speaking. I do miss the people. That's a shame, but what can you do? I like Led Zeppelin. I like Fire Engines (which is pretty rock, BTW, and rough as hell). It seemed surprising to me that Fire Engines scored higher. No disrespect to Mr. Page. Rob, I know, we don't always agree. Your taste seems less compromised, to be honest, less willing to make its peace with silly pop bands. What am I saying? It's not you, it's me. But the Jesu, fucking a, what beautiful stuff. Every time I type Jesu, I accidentally add an S at the end, and I think it's somehow appropriate, don't you? You know, I probably shouldn't post right after half a bottle of wine.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  12. leftoverking says black mountain was fun last year.
    Permalink posted 01/16/2008
  13. fastnbulbous says Glad to see the Jesu appreciation, which was #7 on my ballot. Along those lines you should check out Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde. I've been liking it more and more the past couple weeks.
    Permalink posted 01/21/2008
  14. jenny says Hey, that's too funny. Every time I admit loving the Jesu, and I mean every time, somebody recommends Alcest...you're right though, good stuff.
    Permalink posted 01/21/2008

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