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The Men Who Had to Pay (Wars cost more than just money.)

Posted 11 months ago

(As usual, if you don't want to read the whole long post, click here for the music...)

SatisfiedMind614 has put up a post entitled War - What Is It Good For?.

The answer, of course, is, all too often, NOTHING.

(Sometimes, some places, you have to fight. Iraq is neither the time nor the place...)

My son-in-law spent a year in Iraq.

I spent a year in Viet Nam. (My time there wasn't nearly as nasty as Steve's in Iraq, but it was still A Bad Time.)

My aunt's first husband did a hitch in Korea.

My Dad did his time in World War 2.

My great-uncle (Dad's uncle) did hit time in France in WW1.

My paternal great-grandfather (the one who wasn't a draft-dodger) did his time as an artilleryman in the Austro-Hungarian Army; don't know if he saw the elephant.

My maternal great-great-grandfather was a Confederate infantryman who almost lost an arm (and helped to write a new chapter in physical therapy).

With a little research, i could push it back further, i'm sure - someone in every generation of my descent was probably involved in a war, somewhere, some time.

Is this any way to run a railroad (metaphorically speaking)?

The Canadian poet Robert W. Service (known these days mainly for The Cremation of Sam McGee and The Shooting of Dan McGrew) was a war-corrrespondent and ambulance driver in France in World War One. He wrote some incredibly strong poetry from the expereionce - maybe the language and the form are a little dated, to our eyes, but the message still slams home.

The Munition Maker repeats the refrain "There are no pockets in a shroud". The Man from Aphabaska tells the story of an old fur trapper who determines to join in one last scrap - "I'm their exhibition sniper ... They laugh to see me pluck a Boche five hundred yards away..." Jean Despresz tells a story of ever-more brutal reprisal and counter-reprisal, till, finally, it all turns on one nine-year-old peasant boy...

Country Joe McDonald set several of Service's poems to music, and released an alubum of them back in the 70s, under the title War War War; it was reissued on CD but is long-since OP; last i saw there were two listed for sale through Amazon for right at $75 each.

And the last track on that CD is a poem that Service wrote, not about WW1, but at the end of the Boer War, instead. It's called The March of the Dead.

Comments (9)

  1. SWozniak says My dad was in the service as a cook from 70-75. Both grandpas were in WWII, one also in Korea. My granny was also in WWII, but more along the lines of the reconstruction. And way way back, I had a great-great-great-whatever-grandpa who was a Hessian soldier in the Revolutionary War. It's how the German part of my family came over here.
    Permalink posted 10/29/2006
  2. Tuff Today, Tuff Tomorrow says the whole war situation is ridiculous, especially when the public is always being mislead into believing this is best for the country, when its the people who have to make the sacrifices and the leaders and heads of business who make a profit off of the war efforts... its a crazy system...
    Permalink posted 10/29/2006
  3. B42 says Thanks, as always, for the sentiment as well as the music. My folk heart goes out to those still suffering, and dying. :(
    Permalink posted 10/30/2006
  4. chucky says What b42 said.
    Permalink posted 10/30/2006
  5. lemontwist says Yes, I agree with Bruce. Too many people have to die. It just ain't right.
    Permalink posted 10/30/2006
  6. SWozniak says My dad once told me after he'd been in the service that that's the last thing he'd want me to do. He worked for the D of D when he said it, too. Good thing I'm a pacifist. My friend's little brother is over there now. I really hope and pray he comes back safely and in good health.
    Permalink posted 10/30/2006
  7. fairportfan says The military, as such, is an honorable and even noble profession - one for those willing to give up their own lives in protection of thier homes and loved ones. But when weasels - no, not even weasels, chicken hawks (people who voided military service themselves, but think it's a good thing to fight pointless wars) - like the Current Ruling Junta In Washington DC put those good men and women at risk for no real gain (or worse, for private profit *cough* Halliburton *cough*) on an ill-defined mission with insufficient equipment, well... SF author *David Drake*, a fellow 'Nam veteran - one who Saw the Elephant for real (which i, thank God, didn't) has written several excellent novels of futuristic combat inspired by his experiences. One of them - possibly his best - the novel *Rolling Hot* (contained in a collection entitled "*The Tank Lords* from Baen Books":http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671877941/mikewebersweberw) sums the whole thing up in four words at the end: Don't mean nothin', snake - the same phrase that *Johnny Cash* used for the basis of his retrospective Viet Nam meditation, Drive on, "on the first *American Recordings* CD":http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000009QPA/mikewebersweberw. (If you use the link above to my review of *Tank Lords*, be sure to click on the title or cover shot to go to Amazon and read *Michael Williamson*'s review as well...) *Current National Terror Alert Level* Terror Alert Level
    Permalink posted 10/30/2006
  8. fairportfan says An additional thought i left out of my response to *SWozniak*'s comment: My step-daughter did ROTC at North Georgia College, and decided that she is unsuited for the military; if i'm still around when Helen's daughter Maggieis of an age, i'll advise her against a military career, but it will have to be her free choice, so far as i'm concerned.
    Permalink posted 10/30/2006

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