TOXIC (But the music is fine)

Posted almost 2 years ago

The disaster in the Gulf Of Mexico is a most infuriating thing. And where do we direct our anger?






Comments (24)

  1. jaggerandrea says

    it is so depressing----some of the oil has now begun to show up on our beautiful Florida gulf coast beaches.

    I'm mad at BP, mostly, but how does being angry really help?  After a while, it just adds to my depression---it is counter productive.

    Why have they been turning away so many volunteers when nothong seems to be getting done?  We already know that BP lied from the beginning about how much oil was spewing out.....oh well crap.  Depressing!!!!!!

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  2. deadmandeadman says

    "Why have they been turning away so many volunteers when nothong seems to be getting done?"

    ....The quick answer is "lawsuits". 

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  3. Robin Danar says

    while this post still exists as a question i'll let you know i was here and loved your angle on Toxic Tuesday.  

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  4. deadmandeadman says

      Thanks Robin.  Its all so frustrating, isn't it?  As Andrea has noted, anger is a waste of energy.  I think our shared sense of helplessness will morph into rage if one party or another overtly attempts to make political hay outta this mess. 

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  5. TheLydiaT says

    Funny, Im watching "who killed the electric car" now too... What a country my friends.. what a country

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  6. dansemcabre says

    Thats a good question. Do we blame the dealer for supplying us with our drugs? America is after all quite enamoured of powerful automobiles and high octane low milage speed.

    Or is it the corperate giant who swung a deal to Make it easier for his company to do buisness on american soil.

    Or is it the government person who allowed that deal to go through?

    Or Is it the manufacturer of the part that failed?

    or is the contractor who installed it?

    Maybe the worker who actually installed the part who worked for the contractor?

    maybe it dosn't really fuckin matter who's to blame and all that matters is that we fix it and lern from it?

    after all crucifying some guy isn't gonna solve anything.  maybe anger is the wrong response.

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  7. Labracoon says

    I live thirty miles from the Gulf.  This disaster is of epic proportions and we've barely seen the damage.  Eventually, it will wrap all of Florida, as well as so many other states.  It will not be the same for many, many years to come.

    God bless all of God's creatures caught in this disastrous mess.

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  8. jaggerandrea says

    ....but you know, it is human nature, too....we have to try to use it for something good....but we feel so helpless, don't we?

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  9. jaggerandrea says

    Yeah, I hear you---I live right next to Pensacola Beach, FL

    This sucks!!

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  10. deadmandeadman says

    Mrs T.  It is quite a country isn't it?

    @Dansemcabre......... You said exactly what i was too lazy to.  Your sober assessment of the situation merely serves to highlight the frustration.

    @Labracoon.  I fear you're right & hope you're wrong.  I think we may underestimate Mother Earth's ability to heal herself.  If she's really smart she'll douse herself with flea, tick, & human spray.

    @Andrea...Channel that, use it.  educate yourself about our country's energy use.  (for instance, contrary to Dansemcabre's assertion, a very small percentage of our oil use is for transportation. Where does the oil go?) There will be a great debate coming from this, become a well-informed participant, help shape your state's policies.

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  11. dansemcabre says

    I think we all need to do our homework and start to shape our nations polotics. Maybe it's time we affect change instead of being effected by it.

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  12. deadmandeadman says

      You're right of course.  Really, its our duty as citizens.  Our form of government demands a well informed electorate.  Otherwise we end up with....Hope & Change

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  13. dansemcabre says

    don't wanna start calling each other comrade!

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  14. jaggerandrea says

    no way, buddy!

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  15. Mr Paris says

    It ain't just us. Google image 'nigeria oil' and really be pissed. The equivalent of an Exxon Valdez has been spilled in Nigeria every year for fifty years. Where is the media coverage on that?

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  16. deadmandeadman says

    Oh we Americans are very parochial in our concerns.


    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
  17. dansemcabre says

    Ouch the truth hurts!

    Permalink posted 06/08/2010
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  19. deadmandeadman says

      I share your fury, Jen. & its such a helpless fury, a smoldering rage that flares occasionaly.  And its not like we can lay the blame, or even the bulk of it, at the feet of any one person or entity.  Everyone deserves a share. We can strive, as individuals to lower our petroleum footprint, but the sad fact is......we have no adequate replacement. Petroleum factors into so many of the products & services we've come to takr for granted.

        The situation in Nigeria is truly heartbreaking & again, infuriating!  I wish I had a single answer, but I don't.  Not one.  My heart goes out to the peole there, living lives of abject poverty while their "leaders" live in luxury, complicit with the oil companies in the rape of the land.  Its such an awful mess.  And what makes it all even MORE infuriating, if that's even possible, is the vast numbers of people here & in the world who just don't wanna know.  I could throttle them all.

      "How many times can a man turn his head & pretend that he just doesn't see?"

    Permalink posted 06/09/2010
  20. SerenityLife says

    @deadmandeadman preach it preach it!

    Permalink posted 06/09/2010
  21. Cody B says

    I'm not mad, but BP should pay for the clean up and lost wages of individuals who have lost the ability to make a living.

    They are in a high risk business and they just lost their gamble. If BP thinks they've been wronged by one of their contractors, they can sue them for their part.

    It isn't like they were sharing the profits when they had control of their pipes..

    Permalink posted 06/14/2010
  22. deadmandeadman says

    Cody B.  I agree to an extant.  But there is more....Much, much more, to this than meets the eye.  I think a bunch of small decisions by myriad people in BP & in Govm't & on the oil platform....added up to a disaster.  I DO strongly believe that although the pres. has seriously mis-handled this thing & continues to do so....a lot of the criticism leveled at him is unfair & inaccurate.

    Permalink posted 06/15/2010
  23. Cody B says

    There's almost always more to anything than what meets the eye and I agree..it isn't about placing blame..it's about cleaning up and making folks who have been wronged whole. It is BP's oil and their contractors rig, so they should clean it up and cover the costs initially. The sorting out should be done later and the costs doled out equitably.

    If BP solvency as a company is threatened, England should look at loaning them some dough to get them through. BP is ultimately responsible because it is their oil.

    After the clean up, discussions about the continued risk of obtaining harder and harder to get at petroleum need to be looked at. There is risk and reward in all of this..that's how people make money and it is always,always,always about the money.

    Another discussion is the governments role in private business..is the reward to private risk takers lessened by more severe regulation? Yes it is. It isn't an easy balance to strike.

    Permalink posted 06/15/2010
  24. deadmandeadman says

    I agree with almost everything you say.

    "discussions about the continued risk of obtaining harder and harder to get at petroleum need to be looked at"

    ..for real.

    Permalink posted 06/15/2010

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