taking political stance for presidential election
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obama
there. i said it. if he loses, i might have to go back to amsterdam.
oh, let me tie this to music for mog. see neil young tag. ; )
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Comments (99)
to quote Lesterjonze.......................word!
if you hit Amsterdam, it had better be for some other reason.
Please people (pimp) I love your outspokenness, but Obama has never been Muslim. This is one of the biggest lies that has been going around since before the primaries. Because of an EMAILL! Please people do your research. He is not Muslim, and he has ever been a raised a muslim.
Look on snopes for christ sake!
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
that was suposed to say email.
i speak for myself. not the other 17 or so people at mog.
Sorry just don't trust the dude...
This site needs a SMITE button for any shitwizard stupid enough to post trash like "Obama is a Muslim."
ROCKNROLLPIMP's zany poetry rarely fails to crack me up.
wow....well this already got real ugly
GAG!
IF WE/YOU elect this dood
GOD i only hope he appoints some actual people around him that has ANY politican sense in the universe and if he swears in on a Korah i'm killin all ya'll FIRST
Opinions are opinions, and even though I can't understand why anybody with music running through their veins would want to hand the keys to John McCain, I respect people who tell me they can't pull the lever for Barack, even though he's my choice.
What I will speak out against is lies. If you can't even be bothered to learn the truth, you should reconsider even having an opinion. It's 2008 and it's as close as teh Google and teh Snopes. If you can use Mog, you have no excuse for ignorance.
HEY:bertlet shit shitwizard it is your country too
love what you live with
it is fixin to git UGLY
don't slang it
if you can't BRING IT
sorry pimp. the only war i want to be involved in is a rawk war with you. cause i know i'd win. HAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
bertolet, you kidding me? mcain opened up for kid rock at motorcyle rally.
oh yeah, he did that to be shot in front of a large audience by going to someone else's crowd. god forbid he had to muster one up himself.
U LOST LAST TIME RAWK FATHER
never step up AGAIN
hahahahah. afraid to step up and have to slap you publicly in front of all these nice people.
"...the Korah..."
The Korah?
That's awesome, Pimp. You win the Internets.
Don't like John McCain either. Pimp I'm gonna vote for you so you don't kill us all.
i meant in a rawk war, that is.
And McCain offered Cindy up for a topless beauty contest at said biker rally.
You know, Cindy. The one he called a "trollop" and a "c*nt."
Stay classy, Johnny.
SEE HOW EASY THAT IS?
with only 1 bottle of booze .3hahahahahhaha
part of me wants to register as a republican and then vote for obama. just to fuck with the statistics.
for the record - i am registered as an independent.
erm i would vote for
JAMES BROWN goddamnit!
or at least Robert Johnson....
fuggin A... Robert Johnson for president
I can't bring it in myself to vote for either one, for various reasons. Call it a throw away vote if you will, but I will be voting Libertarian.
McCain may have taken advantage of Kid Rock's audience in order to look like he can pull in the Pabst vote, but something similar can be said of Obama and the Decemberists in Portland.
I'm not crazy about either candidate, but I do lean more toward one than the other. However, I will keep that to myself.
BTW, this gives new meaning to MOG Wars.
what is the ANARCHIST vote for now?
Sorry Pimp, I'm voting for Alferd E. now.
Can anarchists actually vote, what with the whole having to follow a system of rules thing? Doesn't that go against the whole idea?
what did JIM SAY "5 TO 1...1 IN 5"
"NO ONE HERE GETS OUT ALIVE"
YEAH NOW THATS more like it
dead cats,dead rats,think they're an aristocrat.....crap,...NOW THATS CRAP
NOW DEAL WITH it.....
you democrat moggers leave me hanging? i'll get my ass kicked by pimp.
For 2008!
yeah THATS more like it when EVERYBODY SHUTS UP
CAUSE THEY ARE SHEEP
weak. i feel like me and pimp are left standing in the high school cafeteria. it's silent. yikes. food fight?
As votes Yanni so vote I....
thank ALLAH i got guns.....and the sheep are grazing in the fields
Sorry. We libertarians are like the Switzerland of politics. Idealistic, ignored . . . and ultimately ineffective.
SOMEBODY SLANG SOME TATERS....
or beans...at least
politics and religion are the two subjects that stir up the most stupid of arguments. more often than not, those arguing stoop to a totally binary conversation - yes it is / no it isn't. can ANYONE explain why they like or dislike a candidate?
i have never liked mccain, his positions, his voting record, his anything. i was completely indifferent to obama; i despised hillary but would have voted for her if she was the candidate.
however, a recent article in the NY Times that gave some insight into obama's background - his dual legal career - as a law professor and as a senator - shed new light on the man for me. he's the smartest guy running. i think we already know what happens when a moron is in the hot seat.
pimp believes that if guns were outlawed, only outlaws would have guns. i can only imagine the bumper stickers on your car.
oh this voice of actual reason is enough...
too mak me BUY MORE GUNS
Anna log: it's nice to hear someone talk about Obama who has actually done some research on him, and isn't spouting back whatever bandwagon-esque syrup they've been drinking lately. I used to like McCain, actually. Voted for him in the primaries in 2000, but since then I've seen the Maverick and outsider (how I viewed him) turn into another stooge.
Obama is smart, I'll grant you. That, in itself, would be a nice change. But smarts alone don't account for much when matched up against practical experience, of which I just feel he's lacking in.
DH: regarding guns and bumper stickers, I would agree with the pimp on that one.
I Have 0 bumper stickers..
i have a bumper sticker pet peeve
ppl that put "slogans" n such are MAJOR problems to our society
they need to be did/done away with
the more the stickers
the quicker they gone.....
i wasn't referring to the sticker so much as the idea he was accusing you of. sorry if i didn't make that clear. and honestly i don't even know if you agree with it in the first place. I was just being wishy-washy.
they last bumper sticker i bought 1979
"DISCO SUCKS"
I actually put it on my car...
a 1979 toyota corolla
can i add some background music to this fracas? damnit wish i had the good bad and ugly theme...but this will have to do
i heard mcain loves disco.
this is BAD
HAHA @ will
we HAVE TO ELECT James Brown
we just MUST
mr pimp: james brown is deceased. sorry. if we're gonna elect dead people, let's get thomas jefferson back in the oval office!
i understand that alice cooper wants to be elected....
or joey ramone (that was sucking up to anna). :)
joey YES; dee dee for VP - ok; johnny? love his playing.... his politics can stay in his grave. he could totally play the inaugural ball, though. don't you think?
johnny is out for sure. he and pimp should run as independents to split up republican vote.
i saw this at a frame shop in l.a. when i was out there a few weeks back framing my new feist sharon jones and the dapkings hollywood bowl poster
fantastic
hey anna log--
since you seem pretty "on-it", and it was never hard to get an opinion out of you (sorry babe, we just happen to go way back!) here's the angle i'm curious about:
who would the businesses allow to mess with their global deals (if anyone) and which candidate already owes more favors?
obviously, the Bush family business goes way back, and is causing us major problems. what are we looking at for the future? the movie NETWORK rocked my political thoughts in '78 when it described businesses as the real countries and geography as secondary.
thoughts?
since i am awake and a bit wired, i am going to stick my two cents in robin, my apologies theresa and robin
network and rollerball were right on, it's getting more and more like that by the second
i mean the james caan version, not the ll cool j version!
and matt taibbi did a great article in the recent issue of rolling stone with robert downey on the cover about the vested money interests
they all donate equally to both candidates so their teeth are sunk in regardless of who wins
nothing will really change unfortunately
perhaps he can nudge things in a better direction, but simply put we are a corporatocracy, and there ain't a lot that is going to be done about it in the near future in my illustrious opinion
he is still an establishment candidate
Well, MOG-father...Europe wants YOU!
;)
It's hard to live in a country where your religion is considered enough of a slander to immediately deem someone unfit for president or human.
Why wait, can you ride your bike in Amsterdam?
Wait. I thought I wasn't allowed to vote for The Him not being under 25 and all. Huh! Hoo knewz?
Silly!! Why don't we just flip a coin? Or better yet, PELT them with coins, and whoever cries first loses the election?---Obama would probably still win, even though McCain went through all that POW stuff (have youu heard??).
Or, we could always think of a good artist/musician who would make a good prez. James Brown, although dead, would still make a better one than Bush, I must say ;)
I've gotten in more than a few political arguments here, but I still respect those people whom I've argued with in their musical opinion. I just can't stand by and let someone spread a lie that still seems to have traction, whose source was an un-cited email! If some one said McCain drinks Baby's blood, I would be just as quick to dispell that nonsense, even if I think he's a lousy choice and wouldn't vote for him.
Anna Log is write, it's a bit fruitless. I'm right, no your not. yes I am. It's exhausting.
Oh contra, that cartoon hits too close to home (not for me, really for my home), you have no idea how much you made me laugh.
Gotta love XKCD . It's a geek humor paradise!
http://www.xkcd.com
I thought it was common knowledge that McCain drinks baby's blood
Well, it would I guess I would be more quick to point out whether or not the baby deserved it. Like maybe if it was a zombie baby or a baby who was a serial killer, than maybe it would be okay.
Oh, man. I know this is going down hill fast...
As far as the candidates and big business goes, I think that's what Robin was asking about, it all depends on what your priorities are. Ironically, Hillary was the big business candidate. She probably had the broadest CEO support among the candidates (a sampling- Morgan Stanley, Google, Dreamworks). Obama seems to have the most support from Hollywood, consider Geffon, Katzenberg and Oprah. McCain is a big business man who desperately needs to win the religious conservative vote if he wants to win. He is backed by FedEx, MGM, Morgan Chase and Stephen Schwarzman who is considered the new king of Wall St. (CEO Blackstone Group). And yes, it is easy for these folks to spread the contributions around when there is a $2,300. cap, a drop in the bucket to most of them. Money Magazine speculates that 75% of the Hollywood community gives to multiple candidates. How big business votes is probably determined by the candidate's stand on issues of importance to them. If you stand to benefit from federal action to reform health care you'll vote democrat and if you will benefit from free trade you'll probably vote republican.
Look, it's no new notion that most big businesses lean republican because the basic tenants of the democratic party are to limit Bush's tax cuts, penalize companies that build plants overseas and increase taxes on private equity and tax funds. Personally, I see Obama as having voted in line with big business's interests for most of his Senate career. However, I do think that as much as he is part of the business center he seems to believe there are things beyond the economy that need defending, that the gross national product is not the whole story. In other words, American business has to thrive our economy is dependent on it and it's pollyanna to think otherwise. However, that does not give big business the right to treat this country like part of their sandbox that they get to play in and mold to their needs. Without someone defending the rest of the picture, meaning things like education reform, restored civil liberties, universal health care and holding certain big business accountable (i.e.- the oil companies), untrammeled big business can be a serious enemy.
On the issue of gun control Obama has stated, "We can have reasonable, thoughtful gun control measure that I think respect the 2nd Amendment and people's tradition," (2/11/08- primaries). So if you're afraid he wants to take your gun away please do some research on his voting record regarding gun control. His record is geared toward the owner's rights and against the blanket availability of guns on the street. Probably as happy a medium as those opposed and those affirmative can get.
On the issue of national security please read the Lugar-Obama initiative that was signed into law by Congress on 2/11/05. Basically, it expands U.S. cooperation to destroy conventional weapons. It also expands the State Departments ability to detect and interdict weapons and materials of mass destruction. Lugar is the Republican leader of the Senate Foreign Relations Community. This is bi-partisan legislature at it's best.
Let's dance.
I'm an Obama supporter, but voting on the horrible FISA compromise bill is a huge mistake as well as letting AT&T off the hook for it's role in the NSA spying on American citizens matter. It's actually had me reconsidering whether or not I would vote for him.
I would like to see our privacy from snooping government and telcos protected. Someone has to address cyber security, and our online rights and Net Neutrality is an even bigger issue than anyone realises. I may be wrongly optimistic, but I hope he will change some of these travesties.
I agree w/ you on both points. The FISA bill made me gag and I was really disappointed in Obama's vote. I don't know anything about Net Neutrality. What's that?
agreed hyman, oMOGa for president
Debiess -Net Neutrality is the idea that no single body controls the internet (not telecoms or cable companies, as they would like it to be in this country). The big cable and telcos want to get you to pat for a tierd internet in which the more you pay the more you have access to. The less you pay the more limited your choices. You go where they want you to. This will be the undoing of anyone whose living even remotely hinges on the internet -from municipalities to politicians to people who just want to share baby photos. It effects everyone. Especially social networks like Mog.
I would reccomend this episode of Now:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/moyersonamerica/net/index.html
and visit EFF and Save The Internet as well.
I'm with Pimp and Groon . Oh and I think "I am" (Chris) would feel the same.
BTW
2008!
oh
BTW IDJITS
i don't know if Obama is a muslim or a satan worshipper
i see ya'll have yet to figure me out
OR
git a clue
i love to stir shit up...
stupid ass honkies have fucked up this country long enough
lets let somebody else fuckkk it up for a while
muahahahahaha
2008!
Deb and CB-
thanks for the info and yes, i was asking about business and government, but on a bigger scale. the Network reference was as much related to how all the money and business help affect global "alliances" and their actions as it's effects within the US. i have no arguments for this blog at all, but my beliefs in how these things work aren't really happy thoughts. i just noticed a ton of responses to David's post, so if people are talking about it i figured i'd donate a question.
If Obama isn't elected the horror of the Bush years will be nothing compared to what McCain will inflict not just on the U.S. but on the world. McCain is a corporate tool, a moron, a sexist, a racist, has no understanding of the situation in the Middle East, knows nothing about the economy...
Obama is a leader and if elected, he will put this country back on the right track.
hahahaha
so.......... this is what happens when music junkies start talking politics... man obama man !!!
Mr. Mogfather, you HAVE to stop supplying Michael Goldberg with drugs.
AMEN TO DAT!
he is HIGHER than i am!!
I reiterate
BTW Pimp I boycott Opera already JFYI...
2008
Obama.
I said it, too. I'll be happy to check the name on the ballot... Not a savior... simply one of the better presidential candidates we've had in a long time... A smart, thoughtful person who could do a lot of good for this country.
You don't have to like him, but if you believe he's a muslim, then you're probably wrapped in the ignorant cocoon so tight, you'll probably never get out. It's the ultimate IQ test.
no,the ultimate iq test is what lever you pull in november....
yeah. 130 or zero. ;)
This thread was Obama-riffic! (Has anyone else noted that "McCain" rhymes with "inane"?)
Funny how almost everyone outside the US wants ANYONE but Bush to win. It doesn't really matter who the anyone is because they couldn't cause anymore damage to the US than has been done in the past 10 years...
well said neill.
may i point everyone's attention to: