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the grateful dead - like them or hate them?

Posted about 1 year ago
sturgel's post stating that steve miller hates the dead has inspired me to ask.i fluctuate. right now i love them. again.speak your mind. no place for musically politically correct. can't offend on this subject.GO!
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Comments (74)

  1. sonical
    sonical says Been getting back into them thanks to the Dead channel on Sirius radio. I forgot how good they were or how much I enjoy listening to them. So for now I'm still Truckin'.
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  2. Lester Jonze
    Lester Jonze says
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  3. brittanybf
    brittanybf says i hated them for a long time just because of all the hippies in high school. years later, i got into a handful of their songs, but i'd never buy an album of theirs. i don't find myself listening to them much.
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  4. sonical
    sonical says well put Lester!!!
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  5. tjayfowler
    tjayfowler says See my comment on Sturgell's post... in short, I find them inoffensive, but some of the "miracle ticket" types drive me up the wall. Thinking critically, if I thought of any band's audience-base, I'd probably dislike some portion of them as well.
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  6. Sturgell
    Sturgell says I've always been on the fence about the Dead. I think because a lot of it has to do with the fact that they were a live band and I've never seen them live. I've heard a lot of people say "oh I was there and it was amazing," so I've always felt that it's something I don't really understand. Michael Goldberg says: Miller's early albums like Children of the Future were pretty cool. Didn't dig his later hits... On the other hand, the Dead made music for the Ages. People will be listening to their music 100 years from now. I don't think anyone could have said it better. BUT! Result: I don't own any of their albums.
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  7. Masoo
    Masoo says Workingman's Dead and American Beauty: yes. The rest? I can take it or leave it.
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  8. cardmagic
    cardmagic says Love them
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  9. rising
    rising says I've gotta say ... it's been a while since I've listened. I used to be quite involved. Last week, a friend sent me a link to listen to a show that we had both seen at the Oakland Coliseum on 12-30-89. We had flown out to see the New Year's run ... my first and only New Years with the band. The previous day was a dooosie. In brief, we were staying at a motel by the Coliseum. Got up, decided to go to Denny's for a little food before we got on with our day for our first show in the run. We walked a block and waited at the corner to cross to the Denny's. Being from out east, we both jogged across the street against the light .. in the crosswalk, mind you. Next thing we know, cops are escorting us to the gas station on the corner ... busted for j-walking! I was actually handcuffed to a police motorcycle so I wouldn't run away while they were dealing with all of us who were breaking the law. But wait, it gets better. Since we were just going to get breakfast, all we took were some dollars with us... no wallets. Left them in the room. Because we both didn't have ID, they put is in a paddywagon and took us downtown for booking! Really ... we were pictured, finger printed, and thrown in a holding cell. In the Oakland County Jail! Double decker, single sliced baloney sandwiches. On white bread. We spent many hours in that cell ... luckily, I had a law connection through my father that got me out by the end of the first set of that night's show ... took a cab straight to the show. My friend spent the night in the slammer. So ... the next night's show, the one my friend sent me ... started with Bertha "test me, test me, why don't you arrest me ... throw me in the jailhouse 'till the sun go down" There wasn't a much more exuberant moment that I can remember at a show, with a little help from Lucy and her Diamonds. Even though I don't listen to the dead much anymore ... those were some interesting and meaningful days in my life. http://www.archive.org/details/gd89-12-30sbd.gardner.9754.sbeok.shnf I'll always love the Dead.
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  10. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says The Gratefull Dead. On this side of the memories of some incredible concerts it becomes difficult to judge them on just their music. I saw them for the first time in El Paso in '73. They played for four and a half hours. **Tennesee Jed** made the magic list that night. I do not love the as some do, some of their recorded music bores me to tears. But I'd say 86% of their music is to my liking.
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  11. Augusts1
    Augusts1 says People will still be listening to Steve Miller 100 years from now too, that's not exclusive to the Dead. I personally couldn't get into the Dead since they were a hippie/drug culture oriented band & I finally realized you have to be high to truly appreciate their meandering musical style. Since I totally bypassed the whole drug scene growing up(I was a good christian boy, heh) I didn't understand what was so great about the Dead until a friend of mine explained that the whole experience of going to their shows & getting high was what made the music so much better than it really is. I've tried to get into them & listened to live recordings of theirs but to no avail. I've smoked some weed in the past but maybe I should've smoked some when I listened to them! I do like their song "A Touch Of Gray" though.
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  12. Patrick510
    Patrick510 says I can honestly say that i have never listened to the grateful dead. there, i said it.
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  13. david hyman
    david hyman says now patrick, how can you weigh in? go listen!
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  14. Dave
    Dave says Steve Miller hates the Dead? I'll have to look that one up, I can't imagine why. I'm not a Deadhead by any stretch, but I did attend a couple shows before Jerry died. And it's awful hard to top "American Beauty" and "Workingman's Dead" as a one-two punch of perfection.
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  15. Patrick510
    Patrick510 says listening.....having rhapsody makes it so easy.
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  16. Dave
    Dave says And p.s. - dig Steve Miller and all that, but really - "Jungle Love"? "Abracadrabra"? Please.
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  17. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says Dave says:**??And it's awful hard to top "American Beauty" and "Workingman's Dead" as a one-two punch of perfection??** and I'll not disagree, But **Wake Of The Flood** & **Blues For Allah** ain't a real shabby pair either. He than goes on to say: **??And p.s. - dig Steve Miller and all that, but really - "Jungle Love" "Abracadrabra"?Please.??** and I'm sittin' here shoutin' Amen!
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  18. Wanbli
    Wanbli says as if you need to ask me... I could write pages as to why I feel that the gratetful dead are the most unique american phenomenon in our country's young history. How they spawned a subculture, touched 10 of millions of Americans across generations of families for over 40 years I could write even more pages on how they opened millions to jazz, world beat, bluegrass, country, blues and unlimited possibilities of music created in the moment. The stories and influence and beauty of the grateful dead can never truly be told in words or heard on their albums, but only by experiencing them live Love ya Jerry
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  19. Truth
    Truth says love em. especially the years with donna jean. I dont listen them nearly as much as i used to, but they always seem to creep into my musical consciousness this time of year...when the days get longer and the temperatures are rising.
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  20. annieander
    annieander says I saw Jerry Garcia at the Waikiki Shell, just before he passed away, around the "Touch of Grey" period. Nope, never was a fan.
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  21. Truth
    Truth says awww, come on. what do you have against donna jean?
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  22. deadmandeadman
    deadmandeadman says **love em. especially the years with donna jean.** >>>>>Deadheads the world over just shuddered.
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  23. Dave
    Dave says Donna Godchaux? She's only the first musician to be able to play the tambourine off-key!
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  24. annieander
    annieander says DM - Are you sure you are a conservative?
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  25. supertopsecret
    supertopsecret says Patrick. I am with you on this one. I haven't listened to the dead either. That makes us neutrals in this discussion. Every topic needs people like us. We rule!
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  26. Cody B
    Cody B says Love 'em. Many show memories..Saratoga Springs '82. going to an East Coast Prep school, I got quite a bit of exposure. Cassidy, a top tune. Some of the fans can be a bit much, but you can say that for obsessive fans of just about any band. Good songwriters, good players, and great song catchers. A band that really played the spectrum of great American music.
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  27. jaysonn
    jaysonn says I saw Steve Miller Band open for the Dead in Las Vegas in 1995 and they were terrible. Not many fans were into it and were sort of making fun of his tired songs like "Abracadabra" and "Fly Like An Eagle." He was wearing biker shorts and a Hawaiian shirt. So I bet Steve's just bitter about that tour. The Dead are one of the greatest live acts of all time.
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  28. seo tool
    seo tool says I always found the Dead just ok. Some of the live stuff is great and some of the studio tracks are good but they rarely ever made it into the high priority rotation with me - although I have a bootleg that works well for long car rides and bong hits.
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  29. seo tool
    seo tool says I meant "long" bong hits that is...
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  30. Max Load
    Max Load says Don't actually know their stuff, but would go and see them if they were in town at a non-stadium venue. Mickey Hart took my favourite tabla player under his wing when he left home. That's good enough recommendation for me.
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  31. Mike the Knife
    Mike the Knife says Although there are a few numbers (the "Lady With a Fan" section of "Terrapin," and some of the arty psychedelica of their early recordings) that I enjoy, the bulk of their hippy-dippy faux-cowboy tunes (mostly Garcia-Hunter stuff) embarrass me with their naiveté and high corn quotient. Weir's writing is much more satisfying. Still, all was trumped by their spectacular live improv on a hot night. Too bad about those a-holes the Deadheads, though. Can you really love something too much? Apparently.
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  32. B42
    B42 says Hate 'em ;)
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  33. B42
    B42 says Cody, I was at that Saratoga show, and 83 and 84 Wanbli echoes my sentiments exactly in a very nicely put way. To paraphrase - They weren't the best at what they did, they were the only ones that did what the did. (and continue to do for some of us in their ever evolving separate circles)
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  34. contrabandwidth
    contrabandwidth says I'm probably repeating myself, but the Dead had a huge influence in my life growing up (but Phish was even bigger), more than I'd like to admit sometimes. I might be able to go without hearing another dead song again in my life (but I doubt it). Everything the Dead created is 100% an American phenomenon. It's amazing what they accomplished outside of the music industry, so to speak. Any band should be thankful for the road paved for bands and touring bands alike by a band like the dead. They are what it means to be a successful grass roots organization. Whether you like their music or not, their contribution, work ethic, and fierce independence is un-matchable. and Robert Hunter is a national treasure as far as lyricists go. I promise if you pull out any dead song that wasn't on the radio at a campfire, and play it for people who say they hate the Dead, they will ask who wrote that song.
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  35. dermahrk
    dermahrk says No matter how much acid I took, they still sucked.
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  36. Misstee
    Misstee says I never 'got' the Dead, so hate is a strong word but I certainly would get antsy after listening to 3 or 4 of their songs in a row.... ....now, somebody give me a cheeseburger!
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  37. Dale
    Dale says Meh. Never liked them, never hated them.
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  38. B42
    B42 says An Elegy for Jerry (by Robert Hunter) Jerry, my friend, you've done it again, even in your silence the familiar pressure comes to bear, demanding I pull words from the air with only this morning and part of the afternoon to compose an ode worthy of one so particular about every turn of phrase, demanding it hit home in a thousand ways before making it his own, and this I can't do alone. Now that the singer is gone, where shall I go for the song? Without your melody and tase to lend an attitude of grace a lyric is an orphan thing, a hive with neither honey's taste nor power to truly sting. What choice have I but to dare and call your muse who thought to rest out of the thin blue air that out of the field of shared time, a line or two might chance to shine -- As ever when we called, in hope if not in words, the muse descends. How should she desert us now? Scars of battle on her brow, bedraggled feathers on her wings, and yet she sings, she sings! May she bear thee to thy rest, the ancient bower of flowers beyond the solitude of days, the tyranny of hours-- the wreath of shining laurel lie upon your shaggy head bestowing power to play the lyre to legions of the dead If some part of that music is heard in deepest dream, or on some breeze of Summer a snatch of golden theme, we'll know you live inside us with love that never parts our good old Jack O'Diamonds become the King of Hearts. I feel your silent laughter at sentiments so bold that dare to step across the line to tell what must be told, so I'll just say I love you, which I never said before and let it go at that old friend the rest you may ignore.
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  39. steve simon
    steve simon says they changed my life, they still do. god bless garcia and co. hyman, glad to see you back on the bus. it came by and i got on that's where it all began.....
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  40. B42
    B42 says and some very recent Donna for all of the haters -
    Donna Jean and the Tricksters - No Better Way
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  41. bagelradio
    bagelradio says Hate the noodling, the patchouli, and the jam band genre it spawned. The band itself? A few good pop songs.
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  42. B42
    B42 says "A few good pop songs" hahaha
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  43. dangerdot
    dangerdot says When I was a lot younger i was confused about the dead. But the more i learn the more i like, and Berkeley is a good place to learn about the Dead. for serious.
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  44. I am
    I am says I consider myself 'Dead' by association. Alot of my friends listen to the Dead. I am with you, I fluctuate. Depends on the tune really. The Grateful Dead is a goddamn mystery. I have to say, this is a decent start D. This is one of my all time fave Dead tunes recorded from my first show. Hersheypark June 28, 1985. What a ride that concert was. To Bruce, "Said the spider to the fly."

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  45. Michael Goldberg
    Michael Goldberg says I have, since I was a kid in the '60s, mostly loved the Dead. When I read about them in Ramparts and the SF Chronicle and then Rolling Stone, when I heard a live concert in maybe '67 or '68 from California Hall, I thought they were amazing, never heard anything like that. And of course at that age I knew nothing abut the blues or country music or folk music. My context was Dylan/Beatles/Stones/Who/Lovin' Spoonful/Byrds/you get the idea. Even as I learned about the music of the past I continued to dig the Dead and it wasn't until maybe '75 or so that for me the new albums seemed like no big deal, just didn't compare to the early ones, and because there was no good new music, I became uninterested in seeing them live. I had seen them live many, many times. I saw them at least once at the Carousel Ballroom when the Airplane/Dead/Quicksilver ran it, saw them free in Golden Gate Park, saw them at Pepperland in Marin. There was somthing mysterious and wonderful about those late '60s and 1970 performances. Not only did the band sound amazing, but they looked so cool. Later, when I did see them live, they were good, but not like those earlier shows. Today, I think they are one of the great bands. There is music they made later in their career that I don't care for, but everything through that three album Europe show that came out in '72 I think is damn great. I never bought the idea that they didn't make good albums. I love all those early albums. And the live CDs and that have come out for years, again, the pre-'74 stuff just kills me. Love it. A great band.
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  46. B42
    B42 says Chris - "every time that wheel turn round bound to cover just a little more ground" ;)
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  47. I am
    I am says Now you have to admit this comment is to damn clever; *Donna Godchaux? She's only the first musician to be able to play the tambourine off-key!* Keeping it real Dave. Way to go.
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  48. Dave
    Dave says Aw shucks. I've learned from the best around here, but thanks for the props. :)
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  49. wassonii
    wassonii says No comments on individuals, though for me, the Pigpen Live era is my favorite. Do not care for the studio albums, but live, particularly in the milieu they spawned, they cannot be touched, even on my least favorite tracks. Dark Star in all its permutations is one of the finest songs to come into the American songbook ever. word.
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  50. Neill
    Neill says Just don't get the Dead...completely over my head.....it's just that stoned-hippy 'Hey Maaaaaan' boring drone. It's also very American and doesn't seem to be important anywhere else in the world...
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  51. Jonh Ingham
    Jonh Ingham says I echo Michael G's comment. Amazing avant-garde music from 66 - 73. Saw 'em a bunch of times. The last time was at the Shrine in LA in 78 - it noodled and everyone on both sides of the stagelights looked very self-satisfied. I never went back again and apart from what friends throw my way (rehearsals with Dylan springs to mind) have never heard them since.
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  52. jason1969
    jason1969 says I love the Dead, but understand how some people can not get it. But like Wassonii 3 posts ago, I think Pig Pen era dead really cranks. I present to you a link to a great podcast that played this awesome show. This is a hard one to deny, especialy towards the end. Quite an amazing recording for a 40 year old show, even more amazing is how accomplished the band sounds when you think of how young they were. The power of this music, especially in the second set, is really amazing... Link on bottom Grateful Dead Carousel Ballroom San Francisco, CA Date 2/14/68 - Wednesday One Morning Dew [#6:24] % Good Morning Little Schoolgirl [#12:26] % Dark Star [#4:10] > China Cat Sunflower [4:06] > The Eleven [5:09] > Turn On Your Lovelight [9:01] ; (1) [0:05] Two (2) Cryptical Envelopment [1:42] > The Other One [3:06] > Cryptical Envelopment [3:58] > New Potato Caboose [8:37] > Born Cross-Eyed [2:46] > Spanish Jam [11:59]; [3:14]; Alligator [3:17] > Drums [2:27] > (3) Alligator [7:#56] > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) [10:40] > Feedback [5:24] Encore (4) In The Midnight Hour [9:#51] http://media.libsyn.com/media/deadshow/deadpod022208.mp3
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  53. david hyman
    david hyman says goldberg is being humble. he interviewed jerry when he was 15 or 16 years old. probably close to the time when he saw the doors play on mount tam. not fair! do all you folks know goldberg wrote for rolling stone for years and years? and started the first music web site? probably not. he went deep punk right from the beginning but nevertheless....... respect.
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  54. david hyman
    david hyman says mike the knife. lady with a fan might be one of the worst dead songs EVER.
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  55. B42
    B42 says Is Michael the Mogfather's Godfather perhaps? I pay my respects and also my condolences for the deep punk ;) What was this first music web site David?
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  56. david hyman
    david hyman says addicted to noise. i was goldberg's first paid employee!!!
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  57. B42
    B42 says It wants authentication to view past issues, you still have a username and password?
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  58. anna log
    anna log says what a loaded question!! pun intended... first, i shall list my disclaimers & back stories with my weighing in amongst them 1) i have attended 9 grateful dead concerts. this happened MOSTLY during the early/mid 1970s... i did see the dead and sting tour as well as a dead / bob dylan tour. that said - i'm not now and was not then a fan (but i worked for sting at the time and was a lifelong dylan fan which is why i suffered through those particular dead shows). instead... i grew up in the beach resort town of santa barbara, california. beautiful. wealthy. GERIATRIC. the town of half a dozen or so golf courses had a median population age of 65 during my childhood and teen years.... THEREFORE: if there was ANY kind of popular music rock n roll thing going on, i'd attend JUST to be able to find and meet OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE. during my teen years, i saw quite a few bands i didn't particularly like just for the chance to hang with other teens and rock n roll fans... i saw jethro tull (during their peak - aqua lung tour - didn't like them); i saw the allman brothers (post duane... they were good - a really tight band, but i only liked about half their songs); i saw the doobie brothers (their "black water" period. yeesh... boring boring despite a level of musicianship that was high... it couldn't compensate for how i felt they frittered away their skills); i saw loggins & messina (pretty awful); i saw jesse colin young (adept; boring); i saw ELO (interesting.. they were SO different from anyone in 1973).... i also saw the FACES (changed my life), the kinks (again: life changing), bob marley (mick jagger was there... in my home town... almost anonymous... seeing marley whoo hoo!), i saw rory gallagher (learned to love the white man blues with that guy), i saw UFO and came to appreciate the stupidity of kraut metal even though i found the music mundane. and amongst this array of classic rock bands.... i saw the grateful dead. a lot. because they were always on tour. my debate partner (yes, i was on the debate team in high school) was a HUGE dead fan, and it was with him that i attended most of those grateful dead shows. in retrospect, i think he liked the dead because he was a stoner and the dead personified drug culture... and also because at dead shows, there was a higher than average ratio of whirly dervish chicks in skimpy camisole tops sans bras. i mean.. he was a 15 year old DUDE... the presence of the bra-less hippie chicks must have been as much of a draw to my friend mike as the music. besides... i was always getting these instant infatuations on glam dudes at the FACES and KINKS shows... it does work both ways... my impression of the grateful dead at that time: they bored me. it seemed that they'd play "johnny b good" for about 45 minutes, and 20 minutes of that was tuning up and noodling, 10 minutes would be the song, and another 15 minutes would be meandering solos. i didn't think back then that the dead's presentation was a good one for their considerable chops, and in retrospect, i stand by my first impression. chuck berry and the rolling stones represent the best of 'johnny b good" in 3 minutes or less. 2) in my vh1 days, i supervised the series LEGENDS and CLASSIC ALBUMS. in both series, we profiled the dead. american beauty was profiled in CLASSIC ALBUMS. it IS indeed a classic album, one that endures - mostly because it was a stand out in its time and because its content does withstand the test of time. of all the dead's work... american beauty and workingman's dead actually have linear songs... they provide something for EVERY listener in a format everyone can understand... not just the niche audience or aficionado. it doesn't matter if you like the songs or not... they do resonate for so many fans and critics alike PLUS the band really did capture the essence of their time - those albums are downright epochal statements. they also were able to capture the essence of the band's performance and musicianship and key line-ups. when we produced the grateful dead installment of LEGENDS - in viewing all the archival footage, news footage of the era, historical footage of san francisco from the early 60s (when i lived in LA, which was so so so different), it did become clear that the dead, and jerry garcia in particular were inadvertent avatars of a sizeable chunk of youth culture. their experimentation with drugs, their arrests, their participation in and completely lived-in-public hippie life made them larger than life and that is what makes them legend. unfortunately.... the fan-base that reveres the trials and tribulations of the darker side of the dead's personal lives is what rubs me and i'm sure many many others the wrong way. the fan base interferes with the iota (and it is actually a fraction of an ioata in my case) of interest i have in the existence of the grateful dead (limited to those 2 albums)... then again, most of bruce springsteen's fans annoy me to death and i've been way too close in proximity to them during the 20 months i spent on the road with THE RISING tour... fans CAN totally ruin one's personal experience with music by their behavior if that behavior culminates in some kind of seemingly monolithic stance on the music, the icon, etc. 3) in the end, its all about the music. i simply do not like: a) jerry garcia's voice b) most of robert hunter's or that other guy's lyrics and/or things they have to say c) the drawn out meandering nature of the "songs" d) "jamming" --- in conclusion, i've seen them, i've listened to them, and i've even HAD TO study their past and present... i feel that i know them and their music very well..... NO... i do not like the grateful dead. HATE THEM? only if i'm forced to listen or see them.... no... for me, the grateful dead have a place worse than hate or death... i am indifferent. thanks for asking!
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  59. david hyman
    david hyman says anna log. beautiful post. really. bravo. although i'm sad you didn't connect. it's not just the culture and the braless chicks. there's a real thing going on that makes those things happen. the thing is pretty beautiful. as good as it gets when it's good.
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  60. Michael Goldberg
    Michael Goldberg says Thanks for the props David!
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  61. Charley Rogulewski
    Charley Rogulewski says The Dead do it for me. While more of a Phishead, my BFF and boyfriend are both the type of people that hear a Dead song and know exactly what year it's from. It's pretty amazing, and I wish I could do that. Not Fade Away, Good Lovin', Shakedown Street and Franklin's Tower are my favs...and for anyone on the fence check out the In The Dark tune "Throwing Stones." It's got a different GD feel then their other songs. Never saw them though...and my older sister cried when Jerry died.
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  62. Charley Rogulewski
    Charley Rogulewski says I AM -- when i was younger i thought "estimated prophet" was called "california" and my BFF has never been able to let go of that
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  63. Sturgell
    Sturgell says What? Bah! Everyone knows Goldberg's the man!
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  64. Groon
    Groon says Can't stand 'em. Sorry.
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  65. agntdoctorAndrew
    agntdoctorAndrew says the grateful dead is another one of those bands i grew up with my first band shirt was a grateful dead shirt when i was 5 i still have it i like them. i really do. i dont listen to them constantly, but i like them. very much.
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  66. HelenMarie
    HelenMarie says They have a special place in heart. I get into 'em off and on too and don't particularly care for Jerry's voice at times either... ....except for in that overplayed ??Sugar Magnolia?? song. ; )
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  67. david hyman
    david hyman says your name IS sunshine daydream so i mean, really.
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  68. HelenMarie
    HelenMarie says haha... I'm so glad you all around here know me so [digitally] well. I'm a little too sarcastic in real life too. so, I mean, really...I love em. but there are phases or seasons of a stronger love, if you will. : )
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  69. zarpex
    zarpex says Dreadful band. I really tried with them, too... Wonderful band name, though; one of my favorites...
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  70. david hyman
    david hyman says almost as good as virgin whore complex. you must like contrasts. : )
    Permalink posted 04/16/2008
  71. zarpex
    zarpex says How kind of you, david! I'm a great believer in the importance of a cool band name, and in the aesthetic joys to be found in an economically formed and unlikely juxtaposition of concepts. While I'm marveling at my wonderfulness, let me hastily add that a recently formed rock group asked me for a good band name, and everyone seemed delighted with my suggestion - True Love in a Large Room. Keep an eye out for them. If they flop, it won't be because their name sucked. While you're keeping an eye out, by the way, look for my next post, which (when I make the effort to sit down and write it) will reveal to the world my own rather amusing brush with The Grateful Dead.
    Permalink posted 04/17/2008
  72. Wade
    Wade says A college roommate got me to see several shows, and through not stop playing in our dorm room, I came to tolerate them and actually enjoy some of the songs. chinese new year shows in san fran in the mid 80's was my first and particularly memorable, and was a lot of fun. I think they are overrated and the culture was nauseating at times, but some songs are classic. The noodling is completely intolerable unless one is really really really high. "drums" and "space" are sooooo annoying. When that would come up, my I would yank it out and put in Husker Du, Bad Religion something like that for a nice contrast. But some songs are classic really good american blues.
    Permalink posted 04/17/2008
  73. david hyman
    david hyman says nice one wade. : )
    Permalink posted 04/17/2008
  74. hucktunes
    hucktunes says I saw them six, maybe eight times between 1967 and 1990. I like their early stuff and Shakedown Street was pretty good. I liked it more than the Bee Gees. But their songs were too long and too slow for my liking. All that noodlin' wore on me. I was ready to leave before the evening was half over. But they and their fans had a good time and that's what it's all about.
    Permalink posted 05/31/2008

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