Nothing Else

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Nothing Else

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Ben Westbeech

A really silly little post, but the track that keeps popping up on my MOM is not in fact Noting Else by Ben Westbeech, but Nothing Else. The record label obviously spelt the song wrong when they submitted it to wherever Gracenote get their info from.Anyway, it's a great track and is doing a good job of convincing me that it's actually still summer outside....

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Pseudo Cyborg says It's the same with Le Coupe. They have a self-titled album, but Gracenote insists they're called Le Couple and that the album is called Le Coupe. It bugs me to no end.

Permalink posted 11/07/2006
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ciaran says I used to blame GN, but I actually think that it's down to the labels producing the CDs ........

Permalink posted 11/07/2006
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Terry Staunton says You're the second person since Sunday that's mentioned Nothing Else to me. I've not heard it, but I intend to hear it, because it's been namechecked by two people who strike me as far from foolish. Apologies if my comment on your "white dudes with guitars" remark sounded a little snippy. Typical kneejerk nonsense from an old git, and I meant no offence. Costello and Springsteen play guitars, but it's the last thing I associate with them. I do think, though, that the 501 is a little too "white" in places, but I suppose it's down to the people who take part and what rocks their worlds. I may have voted for Marvin and Otis, and while both are brilliant, they're not exactly representative of 21st century cutting edge. I'm a music journalist, but most of my work is for Record Collector and involves reviewing deluxe edition/bonus box sets of historic glories. It's been ten years since I left NME, and I'm really not around people who champion the forward-looking bright future. It's one of the reasons why I joined MOG, I know I'm missing out on shitloads of stuff, and I'm looking for smart people to point me in the right direction.

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Pseudo Cyborg says ciaran: But I've sent corrections to Gracenote, and I know I'm not the only one to do so. It doesn't take much to follow-up on a correction.

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Terry Staunton says PS. My personal favourite misprint is something Noddy Holder of Slade told me when I interviewed him earlier this year. When Slade were about to release a single called My Friend Stan, the record company got a call from Radio 1 saying that there was no way they could possibly play it, as it might cause offence. The reason? The original press release the station got about the record said the song was called My Friend Satan. True story.

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Pseudo Cyborg says LMAO That is absolutely hilarious!

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ciaran says Terry - no worries. I worried whether it was a bit of an easily cynical comment to be honest. I have nothing against white dudes with guitars - two of the bands who most changed my life were the Happy Mondays & Oasis - ground-breakers neither. Essentially I'm a late 80s/early 90s indie kid at heart. I've really had to struggle with my votes - the one for Roni Size was (almost) a concious decision to try and get some great, modern, British music on the list. I say almost, because at the end of the day it is one I love - it's not like I voted for something that I actually didn't like, more that when I was weighing up several choices, it's forward nature won the day (and even that album is a scary 8 years old... I read Word magazine, and whilst I love the writing, the amount of articles on Bruce, Leonard, Tom (Waits) is starting to get me down. I love MOG, but I'm still enough of a luddite to want a great music magazine - where is it? Something that celebrates the old AND the new. NME is too young (but wasn't when I was 15-21 obviously), Mixmag and the rest are just as bad, except Sasha is their Bruce. Wanna start a mag?! ;)

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ciaran says Oh, and yes - you really should check out Mr Westbeech. If you want some great, interesting, new music check out Brownswood Bubblers on Gilles Peterson's new label (also called Brownswood) - it has Nothing Else on it. Most of the tracks are of the soul, hip-hop variety, but all with a nice little slant. Gilles is, for me, turning into a jazz John Peel..... ten years older thanme, but with tastes that I can only wonder at....

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Terry Staunton says I think the great music magazine is a thing of the past. I write for Record Collector and it kinda is a thing of the past, ie a tidy coffee table item celebrating music history. I don't mean this in a derogatory fashion (if my employers are reading!), but it's almost a Which magazine for people replacing old vinyl with newfangled compact discs. The most exciting thing about new music is the speed in which it travels. You mentioned the Mondays earlier, and at the height of the rave scene things moved on through word of mouth or flyers outside gigs - imagine the power and impact that genre would have had were the Internet around! Word is a great magazine, many of my friends contribute to it, but like Mojo and Uncut and Record Collector, it's aiming itself at a certain (ageing) aspect of the populus who want guidance on stuff they really should have heard first time round. New music's media home is the web, courtesy of file-sharing and set-ups like MOG. When I first started writing for NME there were five weekly music magazines. Today, NME is the only one left, and its self-imposed remit is so narrow that I bet either of us could predict who's gonna be on the cover every week for the next three months. A few years ago, after leaving the IPC group (ten years at NME and part of the founding team of Uncut) I became a senior writer on a website called Music365. It folded after a couple of years, arguably because it was ahead of its time. The explosion of web-related music coverage, be it music itself or the common man commenting on it, is something we all saw coming, but the investors didn't agree with us. I'd love to start a physical, page-by-page, pick-up-at-the-newsagents music magazine, and I would take a smug know-it-all backseat position while allowing enthusiasts like yourself the handle the nuts-and-bolts of the everyday operation. But I think that time has passed. The web tells me more about new music than any print publication ever could, partly because it affords me the opportunity to hear the stuff. Back in the 80s, it always frustrated me when I was told I had to write 300 words extolling the virtues of a particular album, when all I wanted to use was five: "Here, listen to it yourself!" Those days are with us now, although we still need discerning souls like yourself to provide the signposts.

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ciaran says Well it's very kind of you to use the word discerning in a sentence about me... As a teen/early 20-something I used to buy NME & Melody Maker every week (never really liked Sounds), & the fact that NME is still going is a credit to them. I do think that the mag I want is out there, I just can't have found it. I keep meaning to pick up Straight, No Chaser but just never seem to get round to it. I do have to say that I love the fact that I can essentially write my own music magazine (my blog) - now if only the damn thing would make some money! I remember Music 365 - Mr D. Kelly if I'm not mistaken - very forward thinking - if only broadband had been around at the time. Talking of the rave scene, I have to say that I do miss the excitement of ringing a mobile phone number, getting a recorded message, then driving round the Home Counties trying to find the party. What I guess that I block out is all the times that the party would be a no-go because they didn't have enough fuel for the generator!

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Heli0tr0pe says Three words about the current viability of music mags: MOJO and BLENDER.

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Terry Staunton says Ciaran, Music365 - indeed Mr D Kelly. A man who once described me as "the best and worst journalist I've ever met - and that's after reading one sentence". Music365 also very nearly got sued by Cliff Richard's people for a news story headline I wrote. It was Christmas, and the inevitable debate about who would top the festive chart ensued. Mr Richard was the favourite with the bookies, but his strongest challenge was from a fluffy novelty record known as the Hamster Dance, I'm sure you remember it. My headline was: CAN CLIFF KEEP HAMSTERS IN NUMBER TWO SLOT? Personally, I think their action was entirely based on (a) there was something rude about the headline, and (b) it was something rude that their client might be suspected of doing.

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thill says the amy winehouse record does not come out in the US until the 21st. as for music mags i feel ciaran's disappointment. i subscribe to paste magazine because it was one of the few that i found had the kind of stuff i am interested in. I sometimes get too much of the adult alternative feel. yep, i think i am in the low to mid range of age groups reading it. I will flip through a SPIN magazine once in awhile but they just had a massive reorganization and i think they got rid of chuck klosterman. Rollling Stone--worth only a look through at a bookstore. The Big Takeover has a lot of long interviews and lots of reviews. Both Paste and The Big Takeover have websites. http://www.pastemagazine.com/ http://www.bigtakeover.com/ also check out Magnet. http://www.magnetmagazine.com/ ignore if you have already heard of these.

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1234chainsaw says But you can get the Amy Winehouse record at CDwow.com for $17.95 incl. shipping. As for music mags, I agree with Teresa that the best thing going on in the US is The Big Takeover. It celebrates both old and new, features many in-depth interviews by writers who are passionate and knowledgeable fans, has copious record reviews. Too bad it only comes out twice a year -- but when it does it's 240 pages.

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QueenofHell says The Hamster Dance - what the sanguinous hell is that? No wonder Cliff was annoyed about that headline - but it is very funny.

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ciaran says Heli0tr0pe - Are you using MOJO & Blender as examples of good or bad magazines? I've never read Blender (more of a US thing innit) but I can't say that MOJO ever makes me want to rush out & buy a copy.. "Thank God, another 10 page article on The Beatles/Dylan/Pink Floyd/delete as applicable..."

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Heli0tr0pe says I wuvs me some MOJO, so there.

Permalink posted 11/09/2006