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Posted about 5 years ago
I'm soliciting opinions on who are the most OVERRATED rock acts of all time. Who's in the canon that you feel should be fired? To start with, I reckon THE DOORS, THE CLASH, THE RAMONES and BOB DYLAN are incredibly pampered, mediocre, sacred cows. So sue me. Anyone else got an opinion that doesn't obey the heritage rulebook? Thanks...
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Comments (47)

  1. QueenofHell
    QueenofHell says Oooh, I think Pink Floyd.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  2. Lester Jonze
    Lester Jonze says I vote for the Clash.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  3. Terry Staunton
    Terry Staunton says I'm with you on The Doors, Chris. Never really understood their appeal. The Ramones were fun for about half an album - which translates to about 13 minutes, when you think about it. In more recent times, I think the most obvious example of what I like to call Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome would be those self-important smug folk who trade under the name Arcade Fire.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  4. chris roberts
    chris roberts says This is great, I have found a use for the Mogging thing!
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  5. hawaiianpunch
    hawaiianpunch says I know what you mean about the Ramones. They are a fun abnd to listen to and I'm sure they were a pretty great live band for entertainment value, but as rock legends, I just don't get it. I think a lot of these bands were just in the right place at the right time andthey blew up along with the moment. In the Ramones' case it was American Punk and CBGB's. There are bands that aren't necessarily overrated, but are bands that I feel like I'm supposed to like but don't really. Like Pink Floyd. The only thing I like from them is The Wall and that's only because of the movie. Roxy Music is another. And Brian Eno, man that guy gives me a headache.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  6. Terry Staunton
    Terry Staunton says There's also the irritating scenario of musicians having their work re-assessed in the light of future celebrity. I tire of reading about Ozzy Osborne being described as a "heavy rock legend" - Black Sabbath were pretty much Herman's Hermits to Led Zeppelin's Beatles, in my humble opinion. In truth, he's become a much-loved figure through reality television, not his music. He's the drug-addled, bewildered dad of a couple of spoiled Hollywood brats, whose (let's face it, occasionally staged) antics have provided water cooler moments the mornings after the initial MTV broadcasts. It's not much more than Springer with tattoos or a menagerie of incontinent domestic pets. Here in the UK, Robert Plant is continually fronting esoteric new bands with leanings towards traditional British folk music, or middle-eastern rhythmic oddities, or verging-on-avant-garde experimentation. Ozzy, meanwhile, is lending his name and image to TV ads for a product called Utterly Butterly.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  7. contrabandwidth
    contrabandwidth says #1 is the Beatles, only because there is just too much written (and re-written, and re-written,etc.) about how great they were. I don't even dislike the Beatles, I'm just tired of them and more interested in the hundreds of other artists that made music when they did. Oasis - Never thought they sounded a bit like the Beatles, and they were snotty and annoying - never liked them. Stevie Ray Vaughn (I now I'll step on toes with this) - I'm just tired of the affected white boy blues (yes I know he's a good guitarist, blah, blah) I always think it's more to do with the gone to soon phenomenon. Stone Temple Pilots - never dug Weilands voice, found music average at best. Bush - The contrived American formed British Grunge band, ick. Britney Spears - An easy one I know, but she's a trained seal. She can't sing and maybe she's great in concert (I really don't know) but people pay lots of money to see Shamoo do flips too. Nine Inch Nails - Listen to some Foetus (J.G. Thirlwell) or some of the original Wax Trax bands and see who Reznor's ripping off. Madonna - I use this in comparison to an artist like Bjørk, who actually writes the music she sings, and is breaking ground w/ her music, where as Madonna seems more to rely on shock to propell her super strardom. Case in point, she's over forty and a mom, when is the last time you were shocked or impressed by her music. Now listen to some Bjørk (who is a mom and I believe over 40 - or at least close to it) which one is making more interesting music. Jefferson Airplane - Except for a hit or two, completely unlistenable. Talk about self indulgent crap. Hot Tuna was the best thing to ever come out of that band. The Eagles - If I never have to hear Hotel California again, I will die happy. If I never have to hear someone discuss it's meaning again, I will die happier. Fleetwood Mac - Their music is played more than the song "Celebration" is at weddings. No more, no more, I just can't take it no more. Just sick of everything about this band. I'm realizing I could go on, maybe I'll save it for a post.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  8. chris roberts
    chris roberts says Oh yes, the abominable Oasis - I should have put them first...
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  9. Terry Staunton
    Terry Staunton says Yeah, the whole Oasis sounding like The Beatles thing has always baffled me. Noel Gallagher - you are actually a poor man's Jeff Lynne. Deal with that, you monobrowed freak! (Uh-oh, Terry's getting angry. Must play the new Nick Lowe album and chill for a while...)
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  10. ivylander
    ivylander says I don't get Pearl Jam at all.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  11. SamTheButcher
    SamTheButcher says I'll disagree with contrabandwidth on SRV, and I'll put out there that Oasis needs to do a lot more to even be considered with bands like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, et. al. Now, the Doors? I'm right there with y'all. I like a few songs here and there, but overall, not getting it. I don't see how you can be in your late 20s and later and find anything interesting about them. Clash was awesome. I'm not a huge Floyd fan, but I appreciate their artistry. Robert Johnson, how's about that? :)
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  12. Mojination
    Mojination says The Clash should always be revered! But, I'd vote for Clapton. Same crap, different album
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  13. QueenofHell
    QueenofHell says Snow Patrol and Madonna, both nominated for Ivor Novello Awards this year. I can't believe that Madonna has been nominated. Her track ‘Sorry’, which appeared on her latest album ‘Confessions on a Dance Floor’, is up for the International Hit Of The Year and Most Performed Work. Other nominees are Elton John for the Scissor Sisters track I Don't Feel Like Dancing, Arctic Monkeys, Amy Winehouse, and Robbie Williams. To my mind, only Amy Winehouse and the Arctic Monkeys deserve to be nominated for this. What exactly does Most Performed Work mean?
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  14. Tony Scalzo
    Tony Scalzo says Overrated: Doors yes Clash no Ramones yes Dylan is UNDERRATED Snore Patrol yes Oasis no Madonna at times but ??Ray Of Light?? is great Robbie Williams sucks Amy Whine Horse yes Clapton yes Stevie Ray Yawn yes Pearl Jam yes Red Hot Chilli Peppers yes U2 is overrated The Beatles are not The Stones have been but are not currently The Sex Pistols no Bright Eyes yes Elvis Costello used to not be but now is What about Coldplay? Aren't they a bit? Music in general is underrated by society as a whole.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  15. JWBlack
    JWBlack says I can understand anyone who has been subjected to the musings of over-the-hill beatnik Ray Manzarek wanting to take a shot at the Doors, but one shouldn't blame Jim Morrison for the sins of his surviving bandmates. Also, the "critics" who always refer to Morrison as a "bad poet" need to show me their credentials. Got a Ph.D in English from one of the top 30 universities in the world? I have. And I don't consider Morrison a bad poet at all. Neither does respected Rimbaud scholar Wallace Fowlie, who wrote a book favorably comparing the two bards. At his best, Morrison was the most mesmerizing frontman in the history of rock and roll: I can think of no one currently operating who is even close, with the possible exception of 60-year-old Morrison disciple Iggy Pop. In comparison to Morrison, today's rock frontmen come across as sissified, corporatized cowards. Morrison had the balls to seriously affront the then king of television, Ed Sullivan, fer gawd's sake. Who among the corporate cock-sucking rock frontmen around today would do the same? As for Dylan, The Ramones, etc. Anyone who stays around long enough is going to produce some shite along with some inspired work. It's impossible to be inspired all the time. Morrison eluded this dilemma by dying young, but Dylan has endured, and the Ramones, while three of them are dead, lasted a helluva long time for a three-chord punk band. You take the best of what they did, and forget the rest. Anyway, as for my most overrated rock band, that's easy: U2. I loathe Bono Vox with a passion, that smug, self-important born-again Christian wanker. He's the ultimate hypocrite, and his band's music sucks. Take that one to the bank!
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  16. celtichris
    celtichris says The thing that's always turned me off about Jim Morrison's lyrics isn't necessarily the quality of the poetry itself; we can debate that till our jaws fall off and never reach consensus, and all of the rank-pulling we can stomach won't change that. For me, it's the ponderous pomposity of everything that came out of his mouth ... his 'listen to me! I'm the most important poet of my generation!' attitude. So yeah, count me in the Doors overrated thing. Also Patti Smith. Also the Ramones (I mean, seriously, they may have been fun, but they pretty much had one song in their repertoire and made a 'career' of rewriting and rerecording it). Ani DiFranco. It's not that I think she's bad, but I've seen singer-songwriters, male and female, who mop the floor with her instrumentally, vocally and songwriteringly. But she has that 'I do all my own stunts' buzz that takes an average talent and builds her into some kind of legend. *ahem* < / soapbox >
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  17. JWBlack
    JWBlack says I don't consider what I said " rank-pulling" at all. Just as I wouldn't venture to critique the work of someone working in the scientific field, I don't see why critiques of Morrison's poetry by people who have no background in the field and have never seriously studied poetry should be considered valid. Anyone is free not to like his words, but that doesn't mean he was crap. He probably was the most important poet of his generation, actually, though I don't believe he ever claimed to be such. And it's hard for me to see how someone who wrote the now biker-anthem "Roadhouse Blues" can be accused of being effete and precious. Patti Smith I can agree with on if you're talking anything after Wave. Her comeback years have yielded nothing much but mediocrity, and now she had been reduced to doing lame covers of "Gimme Shelter" (if there's any song that doesn't need to be covered again, that's the one). Sad, really.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  18. JWBlack
    JWBlack says To Terry Staunton: I think your view of Sabbath and Zeppelin sounds very familiar. It is the one I always heard in high school: the Sabs were always the poor man's Zeppelin.
    I'm afraid I don't agree. While I always pretended to hate Zeppelin while secretly listening to their albums, just to spite people, I do think you are equating Black Sabbath's output with Ozzy alone, which isn't fair. As a stylist, Tony Iommi has been far more influential than Jimmy Page over the long haul. Hell, grunge wouldn't have existed (whether you consider that a good or bad thing is up to you) if it hadn't been for Iommi's riffs. And judging from recent reviews, even the Sabbath Mk. II with Iommi and Ronnie James Dio currently on tour is blowing away even the most jaded rock critics. Iommi is the common denominator there. As for Ozzy, he faced the same dilemma that hit Iggy Pop at a certain point: clean up or die. This kind of decision forces compromise, Ozzy's being that he had to surrender his life to a wife who makes most people I know kind of queasy. But I can't judge the classic Sabbath output against the current, addled version of Ozzy, any more than I can judge Raw Power in light of The Weirdness.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  19. Sam The Artist
    Sam The Artist says RAMONES MOST DEFINITELY. but also KISS. dont understand how they can play the same song for soo long (you know which one im talking about).
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  20. ivylander
    ivylander says Yeah, but Kiss were never supposed to be good, right? To shift gears completely, am I the only one who thinks it has been at least 10 years (and probably more like 20) since Lou Reed did anything that even came close to VU and his early solo albums?
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  21. eastvanmungo
    eastvanmungo says Some of the best hate mail I ever got was for writing an article where I mentioned, in an offhand manner, that the Monkees were better than the Doors. A statement I still stand behind. Clapton is also pretty "meh" in my books. All the Grunge bands (Nirvana, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam... let alone the poor man's versions thereof) were nowhere near as entertaining as a heap of other bands coming out of Seattle at that same time, i.e. The Young Fresh Fellows, The Fastbacks, Flop, The Mummies and The Monomen.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  22. I am
    I am says Sex Pistols for sure, real punk didn't start until after they were gone. Anything by the Cure after Hot, Hot, Hot Alman Bros Jethro Tull Rush Yes Moody Blues And my biggest vote goes to the Rolling Stones.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  23. contrabandwidth
    contrabandwidth says More, oh I got more. I applaud the people who mentioned Clapton (Although I do like Cream, but Slowhand might just be one of the most over rated albums I have ever heard). Alanis Morrisette - Talk about reworking one song, yeesh! Tori Amos - Arpeggio Anyone? What did you say about the self righteousness of Patti Smith? Black Eyed Peas - They were your average cut out hip hop group and than they added fashion plate Fergie and became a pop mish mash of some sorta "where's the love" populous catastrophe Weezer - A band who went from having a perfect album (Weezer) to making run of the mill modern rock. Yngwie Malmsteen - I don't know if anyone takes him seriously anymore, but when I was in Jr, High people thought he was the greatest guitar player ever. I think because he said he was. Yes - (I can hear the breath exhaling from mouths) Never could get into it, I think it's when Prog rock took a turn for the worst. Dave Mathews Band - The only thing missing from DMB is U. People used to tell me how great the musicians in his band were, how would I know? All they play is easy listening crap. Sting - Adult contemporary mediocrity. I do like the Police, though. Phil Collins - Unlistenable. Glad the 80's are over. Genesis - Couldn't even get into the Peter Gabriel stuff, and I like Peter Gabriel. Rod Stewart - Faces good. Hot Rod, grating. (He did make an album with Jeff Beck that wasn't too bad, too). The E Street Band - I know I'll catch hell for this, but I just don't like Sprintsteen with them. What rocks about a xylophone? I know it's some sort of nod to Specter's "Wall of Sound", but I can't take the sax solo's either. James Taylor - Musical Ambien.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  24. Hmmm
    Hmmm says U2 and Nirvana get my vote. Nirvana is actually a pretty good band, just not... legendary, I guess.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  25. amber
    amber says U2 followed closely by Coldplay. Ugggg
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  26. ZZTodd
    ZZTodd says my vote is definitely U2. can't believe people are hating on Floyd. same with Stevie Ray. Zeppelin and Sabbath both created the heavy metal sound in different ways. No, Zeppelin is not a metal band by any means, but go back and listen to Sabbath's first album and you can see that they weren't either. The makings were there at times, but it's not metal (yet). Sabbath got heavier, and Zeppelin went in the opposite direction. They're both equally important to the sound of modern rock, though.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  27. zoot
    zoot says dylan mediocre?!?! have you been huffin' paint or something? yeesh.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  28. ScheisseMinelli
    ScheisseMinelli says imsurprised that im even commenting on this post due to the excessive express of dislike for the doors. someone please name another artist that played the keyboard with one hand and the bass on another keyboard with the other hand and did it amazingly well WHILE severely under the influence of drugs... my votes go to u2 and springsteen.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  29. Cody B
    Cody B says How about the Beach Boys. One great record, one legendary just finished record. I agree with many above, Doors, especially. It is difficult to think that Iggy was a wanna be Jim Morrison. His record label might have thought so, but he was comin from a different place. As for the newer folks..only time will tell. I'm gonna give em a chance to live up to the hype before I say their overrated. If you base your overrating on say the top 500 Rolling Stone albums of all time, you could get a pretty big list out of the top 100.
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  30. colizzle
    colizzle says Chris- You beat me to the punch. I was seriously thinking of this topic on Friday. I don't think I could have gotten as much input as you have, though. Mine aren't necessarily overrated...more along the lines of "I don't get why they're popular." Lou Reed - talking your lyrics? Bob Dylan - who knows what he's saying? Neil Young - worst voice in history? I'm not a fan of Bruce Springsteen or John Cougar or Rod Stewart, but I can at least understand on some level why someone might like them. But I really don't get Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, and Neil Young. I realize these guys are huge, so I'm looking for some insight...come on, folks...help me appreciate these giants of the music world. What's the deal?
    Permalink posted 04/24/2007
  31. chris roberts
    chris roberts says Lovin' your work, people!
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  32. Cody B
    Cody B says Just to clarify..overrated by whom? Is it "they"? Whose "canon" are we talking about here? This post periodically comes up, so we can renew the argument. It's fun, although I am always slightly troubled by the outpouring of vitrol. In the past it has been ,"What band do you think sucks":http://mog.com/david_hyman/blog_post/11650 , "A Good Slap":http://mog.com/Joxley/blog_post/32882 , "Bands That Secretly Suck":http://mog.com/wdog/blog_post/33826 As to your originals Doors-Yes, although I'm not sure they are overrated and lots of people here prove that. The Clash- Why? Not enough material? The Ramones- NO, they were post modern, before other folks were modern Dylan- NO I'll say one thing, you would have got a ton of additional responses if you whacked "Joy Division":http://mog.com/Joxley/blog_post/32882 Basically, on MOG it doesn't seem like anyone is safe. MOG creates hype, while simultaneously tearing it down.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  33. Cody B
    Cody B says "Dammit, sorry I messed up the link to Joy Division Sucks or Not":http://mog.com/wdog/blog_post/33498
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  34. JWBlack
    JWBlack says For the people here elevating Mr. Osterberg (Iggy), and denigrating Jim Morrison, you might be interested in the following quote from the Ig himself: "It was after I saw Jim Morrison that I decided I'd be a singer, no matter how much I laughed, cried or died. He [Morrison] had a great sense of occasion. And the first night I saw him, his sense of occasion was totally out of hand, and he had no sense of anything else. He was just LSD'd out of his mind, reeling like a drunk, singing like Betty Boop and just refusing to be correct, basically. And I thought, 'This is great. This is really great." So you won't be enlisting the World's Forgotten Boy in the Anti-Doors Brigade any time soon.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  35. Cody B
    Cody B says Does saying a band is overrated mean you are denigrating them? The question was if someone is overrated. I think by generating lots of pro and con The Doors did something right, no? As for what Iggy said, I'm not sure that is exactly a ringing endorsement.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  36. JWBlack
    JWBlack says Iggy has always name-checked Morrison for as long as I can remember. As far as what he said not being a ringing endorsement, for him I think it is. Obviously the "punk" aspect of Morrison's behavior, his refusal to be "correct," as Ig puts it, had a lot to do with his own onstage antics later (the infamous peanut butter episode, etc). And Iggy's "crooning" style that he has employed on albums like "The Idiot" were also inspired by Morrison's own vocal stylings. Both men were heavily influenced by Frank Sinatra's singing, believe it or not. And no, Joy Division doesn't suck. But some late-era New Order definitely does.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  37. JWBlack
    JWBlack says I forgot to add: I'd consider a remark like "The Monkees were better than the Doors" an attempt at denigration, myself. But obviously anyone can make an asinine statement like that: it doesn't take any particular smarts to do so. I could say The Archies were better than The Beatles, and no doubt someone out there who considers himself a musical iconoclast would agree with me.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  38. Cody B
    Cody B says true,true on the Monkees quip JWBlack. I am not one of the haters,though,and I am getting swayed on whether they are overrated, to a place where I think their "rating" is about right. Some like, Some loathe,Some Love,Some Worship. Like i said before, if they are able to generate that kind of passion, in either direction,there must be something there.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  39. JWBlack
    JWBlack says I think that in the case of a band like The Doors, sometimes they will be in vogue and sometimes (like now) they won't be, depending on the cultural zeitgeist. These aren't particularly expansive times; things are more nasty, brutish and aggressive, culturally speaking, right now, which is why a band like The Stooges, who are also one of my favorites, seems to be held in much higher esteem than the Doors. When you look at African-American music, the same thing seems to be the case: the hip-hop stuff that is currently big is mostly the most thuggish, crass stuff, with the most materialistic messages. Not many Marvin Gayes in that crowd. I suppose mass consciousness as reflected in pop culture is always either expanding or contracting, and right now it's the latter. While I was never a hippy and went through my own period of hating anything hippy, I wouldn't mind seeing things turn a little bit in that direction again, just for a change of pace.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  40. Cody B
    Cody B says Were on the same page now JWBlack. Thanks for all you comments on this one.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  41. QueenofHell
    QueenofHell says Profound.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  42. contrabandwidth
    contrabandwidth says I have to say my piece. The Doors were "under the radar" so to speak, until the book "Nobody Gets Out of Here Alive" which cam out in the early 80's. Before that, the best coverage they got was in magazines like Tiger Beat, because they thought J.M. was cute. I've both liked and hated the doors in my life, and realize that we ultimately got something better out of him by the likes of Iggy Pop. I think the hype created by the book is what made him a "Legend." I have been to the cemetery in Paris where he is buried and the total disrespect for others loved ones tombs being desecrated with arrows pointing to "Jim" is appalling. If your so counterculture, don't get friggin buried in a cemetery! Go out Gram Parson's style! I know it's not Jim's fault, but it's these same people who are furthering his myth.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  43. ivylander
    ivylander says That's not my recollection of the Doors' reputation, CBW. The way I always saw it - not from my personal POV, but from my general sense of how they were received by the public - they started out as an art band that sold a pantload of records the first couple times out (the self-titled debut, "Strange Days"), seemed to run out of gas artistically ("Waiting For The Sun"), maintained a reputation as a kickass band because a) they played great and b) you never knew what Morrison would do, then somehow released a couple of crap records that became hits ("Touch Me," "Hello I Love You") then redeemed themselves artistically with "Morrison Hotel" and "L.A. Woman." Then Morrison bought the farm. I have not been able to make up my mind whether the Doors are overrated or not. There's some real gold in their catalogue. There are also a number of cringeworthy moments. As someone else on this thread said, anybody who has been around for a while and hasn't been afraid to take a few chances has released some turds.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  44. ivylander
    ivylander says By the way CBW, not rankin' on you, just saying I remember it differently. There was that teenybop aspect to the way they were marketed, but at first they were taken very seriously by musicians, music journalists, and a lot of listeners....
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  45. Sam The Artist
    Sam The Artist says now that i think about it, i guess the ramones are just played out, not overated. or maybe its just cuz i dont like them. i mean they did have a new sound at the time, and i respect that, but i really do hate the punks that wonder the streets whom live/breath em and feel obligated to put huge ramones patches on their jean jackets cuz theyre not "understood." so i guess i was being bias. but back to the topic at hand. joss stone - she got famous by doing a crappy cover of a white stripes song... i mean really. ill also throw in norah jones for good measure.
    Permalink posted 04/25/2007
  46. eastvanmungo
    eastvanmungo says Okay, I will give you naysayers the fact that The Doors do deserve cred for writing their own songs, whereas a lot of The Monkees songs were written by Neil Sedaka and the like. Still, you can stack the best Monkees song up against the best by the Doors, and they measure up pretty well... Pleasant Valley Sunday You Just Might Be The One (I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone Last Train To Clarksville She You Told Me Shades of Gray What Am I Doing Hangin' 'Round? Circle Sky Randy Scouse Git Regardless of who wrote them, those song stack up pretty favourably compared with any 10 by the Doors. Maybe the Doors aren't overrated... maybe the Monkees are just underrated. Or maybe, this is a topic for another mog.
    Permalink posted 04/26/2007
  47. contrabandwidth
    contrabandwidth says I'm too young too actually have "experienced" the Doors when they were alive (my father-in-law did go to the infamous Miami show in which J.M. "exposed himself" - He has no memory of the instance, because after all it was the 60's (70's?)). I have talked on various occasions with others who were in the Classic Rock frame set (I guess they would have been listening to FM back in the early 70's), but the one common thread I brought from those conversations was that it wasn't until around 1980 or a little later (1980 is when the book came out) that they had this huge resurgence, where all the sudden everyone was "discovering" them. I really don't dislike the Doors (or the Monkee's for that matter because some of the Brill Buildings best writers wrote their songs). I think they definitely did their part by not being "Flower Power" to set them apart from the rest of the music of the time. I just sometimes find the fan's as bad as Morrison (who claimed he was Rimbaud re-incarnate) claiming that he is some sort of golden god. Hardly, I've read Rimbaud, and I think Morrison latched on to him the way Morrison's fans latch on to him.
    Permalink posted 04/26/2007

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