I don't mean that I don't understand their actions or their motives (That's a whole 'nother story). I mean I don't understand them. Their language!
I just wrote a paper about how white and black Americans actually speak completely different languages (remember the scene in "Money Talks" where Chris Tucker says that Charlie Sheen's fiancee is "phat"?). We really do communicate so differently.
Take music, for example (duh!). When black people make songs, we say what we mean. "I'm gonna go kill me a nigga, go fuck me a bitch, go smoke me a blunt, then take my handicapped grandmother grocery shopping." BAM! Simple. Can white people say that? Nah, they'd mean the exact same thing, but the wording would be more like, "The buzzards cast no shadows, but my love does, when the smoke clears, life has moved on." What the fuck?
Goodbye Apathy by OneRepublic
I can't sleep now, no, not like I used to I can't breathe in and out like I need to It's breaking ice.. now, to make any movement What's your vice? you know that mine's the illusion And all at once (as i'm trying) I can help you out ( just to keep things right) I'll be what you need (I kill myself to make everything perfect for ya) Goodbye apathy, so long apathy
So don't sit still, don't you move away from here So goodbye apathy (as i'm trying), so long fancy free ( just to keep things right) Goodbye apathy, (kill myself to make everything perfect for ya) I don't wanna be you
I don't walk right, not like I used to There's a jump in my step as I rush to see you I could be happy here as long as you're near to me As long as you're close to me Now that I'm alright (as i'm trying) I can help you out ( just to keep things right) I'll be what you need (I kill myself to make everything perfect for ya) Goodbye apathy, goodbye apathy
So don't you stop pushing me, I can take so much So goodbye apathy (as i'm trying), so long fancy free ( just to keep things right) Goodbye apathy, (kill myself to make everything perfect for ya) I don't wanna be... you...
Everybody is watching you, everybody is watching me too ....
Okay, so what the hell is this guy trying to say with "goodbye apathy"? Kinda sounds like, "Baby, I'm going to try harder to make you happy instead of just being so nonchalant about everything." Cool. A pretty pussified sentiment (I mean, what self-respecting man would care about his woman's feelings? Who gave women permission to have feelings?), but I'll let it go, cuz I like the song. But, could some of my brothers of the other color please interpret a few of these lyrics?
It's breaking ice.. now, to make any movement
What's your vice? you know that mine's the illusion
I don't wanna be you
Everybody is watching you, everybody is watching me too
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Is this really a discussion on metaphors and similes?
I would have to say that the lyrics read like some angsty teenage poetry (though I haven't heard the music yet, perhaps they make it bearable). I'll humor you and give my interpretation. It’s breaking ice.. now, to make any movement
To break the ice is to start conversation with others, so perhaps there is uncomfortable silence between the two, on that any movement (like a kiss, perhaps?) would rid them of this tension.
I Don't wanna be you
I don't wanna control you baby. Read: I'm not like those other assholes, I'm sensitive and I just want to let you be you (popular "sensitive guy" talk used to try and get laid, usually unsuccessfully).
I would say if you were to judge us white folk from said lyrics, were parenthetical. There are always many asides to what we say. We want to say something along the lines of "I wanna fuck you like a ho" but we have to ad an aside "(meanwhile respecting your space/feelings as a person, and only if it was mutually consensual)". I think it sort of stands as an example of the PC mindset gone wrong.
While there will always be the place for the rock n' roll bad boy, you'll also find your sensitive John Mayer/James Blunt types getting a lot of tail from their schtick, too. Both persona's attract a different caliber of "listener" with whom the singer would like to bed.
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Hmmm... I can give it a shot. If I were listening to this song, I think that I would take it as meaning that he is doesnt want to say/do anything to upset her, basically he feels like he's walking on thin ice and just bringing up what the problem is in their relationship could be the end of it. He is attached to the way people perceive their relationship, all happy and lovey dovey, but that aint really the case...
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Contra: I love discussions on the meanings of songs. Cuz the exact same lyrics can mean so many different things to so many different people. So you're saying that things are just really tense between them. So, every movement is like breaking the ice all over again. Okay. I like that.
Maybe the song is just so confusing to me because the lyrics seem really hopeful, but the music seems pretty sad.
iwanttofillyourmouthwithspiders: Man, FUCK the song, what does your NAME mean? :) I can definitely see the "walking on thin ice" thing. That kinda fits more with the music than lines like "There’s a jump in my step as I rush to see you."
By the way, how long can a guy rock his head back and forth like that before he slips a disk or something? You'd think there would be a rash of old rock n roll guys coming down with spinal injuries.
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"I don't wanna be you" = "I wanna be ON you instead."
"Everybody is watching you, everybody is watching me too" = "Because LOOK! We're on TRL!!"
"It’s breaking ice.. now, to make any movement" = "See my ice pick. It is as simple as it's name. However, if you piss me off, it will serve a different purpose."
"What’s your vice? you know that mine’s the illusion" = I have no idea.
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My name means what it means... (dont you just hate answers like that)
Slayer is still rockin hard, so whether they have to be put in traction every couple weeks or not, they have been keeping it up for a while. I, myself, only for about 15 years...
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I have nothing but to say tears of laughter rolling down my face - I picked a good day to forget my eyeliner Troy...
I wanna read that paper, yo then roll it up & smokes me a big phattie ;P
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hmmm... msquared64 got me thinking, maybe the whole song is about Basic Instinct and Criss Angel. Just thought I would toss that out there
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& THIS IS WHY MOG ROCKS HARD _translation_
LET'S ALL TRY & GET SOME TONIGHT - FOCUS OUR OBSESSIONS ELSEWHERE FOR A CHANGE ;P
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Me either.
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Cody, has anyone pointed out yet that your mog page is way too organized?
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That's my white side.
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& oh the sides he has...
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Cody, Troy makes a point, that is a helluva well organized page. Most impressive...
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OCD can be a good thing - least that's what I tell myself ;P
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You want some folk who say what they mean (or accurately, write what they mean), read some Raymond Chandler or Dashiell Hammett. Elmore Leonard's 'Stick' is pretty blunt as well.
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"What’s your vice? you know that mine’s the illusion" the illusion of what a relationship could be or could have been or is or was. Methinks.
My MOG is organized chaos, a black and white brothel ;) Erm, Lizzie, I'm gonna need you to pass me that phattie now...
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I have decided, I just don't give a damn. Talk however the hell you want.
My lighters wet, anyone got another?
Here's my take:
It’s breaking ice.. now, to make any movement - Look out! We're gonna drowned.
What’s your vice? you know that mine’s the illusion - I made this money playing craps.
I don’t wanna be you - Your pathetic, get away from me.
Everybody is watching you, everybody is watching me too - I told you sex on the subway was hot.
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I agree with you Troy.
It is a cultural difference in how we (black people) use terminology.
For me saying bad is good and vice versa. Many people get that but when I get into my slang I usually do not say it around many people unless I know you are following what I am saying.
Where is Dave Chappelle when u need him?!
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Jennifer: I am guessing I could pick up mosta what you'd put down... I agree there is a difficulty for some to understand a different cultural terminology than their own - think maybe some of that is due to age, some due to close-mindedness, some ignorance.
A person has to be open to take it all in I think.
Maybe part of why I do get it/_understand_ different slang/terminology is becuase I listen to everything... and what I don't get (mostly the weird slang Dale uses ;P, I have the urban dictionary and google to save the day) :)
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BTW Troy, you are one of the MOGgers I never had a problem understanding. Your tone, if you're being sarcastic, your humour, everythingeverythingeverything.
I'm worried that I'm turning into your female version. A Troyette, if you may.
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High Priestess, PIMPETTE. Troyette Queen Anna ;)
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A female version of me? That's kinda sexy...in an ego-maniacal, slightly homo-erotic way. If she's 21 and wears hot pink ties...even better!
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Haha - amusing post!