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Steve Miller Hated The Dead; Criticizes The US Mail Service

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Rocker Steve Miller may have honed his craft in San Francisco during the late 1960s, but don't lump him in with local bands from that time, especially the Grateful Dead."I couldn't stand that band," Miller said on Thursday, during a panel at a music industry symposium, recalling the Dead's interminable jams and lengthy tuning breaks between songs.In fact, Miller said it was much more interesting to listen to frontman Jerry Garcia's stage banter than to listen to the band play its psychedelic improvisations.The San Francisco music scene was more of a "social phenomenon," Miller said, and his eponymous band was more musical and more professional than the pack.Miller was speaking at the "I Create Music" expo hosted by performing-rights group ASCAP. The night before, he received a lifetime achievement honor from ASCAP, and performed a half-dozen tunes, including such hits as "The Joker," "Rock 'n Me," and "Take the Money and Run."??Steve Miller Band, in the 80's??During the panel discussion, he stressed the importance of having complete artistic control, noting that he held out for such rights when 14 labels competed to sign him after his performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in 1967. He eventually went with Capitol, which still represents him.He recalled that he allowed the United States Postal Service to license his tune "Fly Like an Eagle" in the 1990s under an $11 million deal that gave him final approval of every aspect. But the first few television ads aired before he received the submissions in the mail, and were "awful."Increasingly frustrated, he called the USPS and its ad agency, and told them, "You have to stop sending this stuff by Priority Mail ... Use FedEx.""It was really bizarre working with them," he said."yahoo!":CH[CH]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080411/music_nm/miller_dc

Comments (40)

  1. KoriLinc says LOL... musicians are truly drama queens... hehehe
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  2. Scotch says Funny thing... I liked both the Dead and the Steve Miller when I was younger. Then I turned a corner and can hardly listen to either of them. The Dead, while I appreciate their skills, just make my eyes glaze over. It's like I get nothing in return for their self-indulgent musical segues. Steve Miller, well, that only ever appealed the teenager in me. He's a talented guitarist, so it's a shame you never heard it on his popular stuff. And he REALLY should have given lyric-writing duties to someone else...
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  3. Michael Goldberg says Miller's early albums like Children of the Future were pretty cool. Didn't dig his later hits... On the other hand, the Dead made music for the Ages. People will be listening to their music 100 years from now.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  4. Shud33 says Well now how many people do you think he pissed off with such a statement...lol...idiot. I am a fan of both groups for different reasons. I don't even think you could really put them in the same category. But all in all, I agree with Korilinc..such drama queens!
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  5. Scotch says Michael, I agree. The Dead just ain't my bag these days. Shud33 - If I were Mr. Miller, I would tell those people to suck it up. He simply stated an opinion, and if folks don't like it, they don't have to. It's not like he really insulted anyone as far as I can tell.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  6. dermahrk says My opinion of Steve Miller just went up by several notches!
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  7. Shud33 says Scotch - Yeah..yeah, I guess that is the joys of being an american. I see your point, he just seemed a little to on the whiny side to me..
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  8. Wotmoney Tribe says There's not enough pot in the world to make the Greatful Dead worth listening to. Steve Miller at the best, but the Dead are one of the worst bands ever.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  9. Davis Presley says Hey! I have something in common with Steve Miller. You learn something new about yourself every day.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  10. runobodyii says I applaud irreverence most everywhere I find it.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  11. Charley Rogulewski says steve miller sounds like a real boob
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  12. Shud33 says Damn charley, you are full of the one liners today..lol
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  13. tjayfowler says My experience with the Dead stems form working at the Dead "Headquarters" (get the pun?) a record store in Minneapolis called Down in the Valley. We sold Dead stickers, shirts, and the products with crossover appeal -- bongs, pipes, papers and the like. At least twice a week some guy with razor thin red eyes would ask if we had the Dark Star performance from September 1972 -- "...you know, the one where David Crosby joins them on stage, man?" I wouldn't say I don't like the Dead, but those Mpls-based Deadheads, man o man. Anyway, reminds me of the joke: Q: "What did one deadhead say to the other when they ran out of weed?" A: "Dude this music sucks."
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  14. contrabandwidth says Rhyming the line "He makes his money off of peoples taxes" with the previous line "You know he's gonna find out what the facts is" deserves a certain kind of cruel punishment that should be bestowed upon any lazy lyricist. I don't really smoke enough pot anymore to enjoy his inane music.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  15. Sturgell says I've always just felt out of touch with them. Like, do you have to do a bunch of drugs to even groove with them in the first place?
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  16. david hyman says well, i hate steve miller, so there.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  17. Wahiawa786 says I recall The Steve Miller Band playing at Andrews Ampitheater (University of Hawaii, Manoa) some time in the late 60's. Just before they launched into "Living In The U.S.A.," the drummer wondered aloud if the audience would be offended. (The audience was delighted.) As for the Grateful Dead, they were like parts of the 1960's: I don't recall anything about them locally. The one interesting thing that came out of the band was...Bruce Hornsby, who went from covering Grateful Dead songs to playing in the band before "The Way It Is."
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  18. david hyman says sorry but bruce hornsby was far from the "one interesting thing" that came out of the band. so so so disagree.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  19. Augusts1 says Sturge, I agree w/your last comment completely. The Dead are such drug culture oriented music & since I didn't get into doing drugs('cept a bit of weed) I had a hard time getting into their musical vibe. I did really like "A Touch Of Gray" but that's it. So much of their music meanders all over the place. I was into Steve Miller big time back in the day though.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  20. Masoo says Irony: Miller complains about the Dead's endless jams, yet the greatest thing he ever did was to play really really long versions of "Your Old Lady" as he wailed away, chorus after chorus, on the gee-tar. Further Irony: Miller was a non-believer in the great hippie religion, from all accounts. He prided himself on his professional approach to music when the other bands were noodling. Yet the greatest psychedelic music to ever come out of the "San Francisco Sound" was side one of Children of the Future.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  21. Dave says Hmpf, Miller. Oddball. He should ask himself why he bailed on psychedelic blues the second he got some AM airplay with "Space Cowboy" and "The Joker".
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  22. Mike the Knife says What I find interesting is how quick people are to use the "drug culture" thing. That is a weak arguement. Anyone who likes to toss those stereotypes around should: A) Read The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test B) Ask themselves if almost every other type of music (band and the fans) hasn't been fueled by booze, heroin, speed, coke, etc. You name it it was part of it - disco, punk, new wave, blues, metal, grunge, jazz....hell jazz is most likely the earliest "Drug culture" music. Miss you Jerry
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  23. Mike the Knife says Initially, Miller was a ripping good guitarist and somewhat cool band leader. (Your Saving Grace, spotlighting keyboardist/singer/songwriter Ben Sidran, was boss, and Living in the U.S.A., with Boz Scaggs on board, was pretty damned good, too.) Then, he turned into the hack who scored big with derivitive crap like "The Joker," "Jet Airliner," "Rock 'n Me," and "Take the Money and Run." Useless, dull, annoying. In concert, the Dead's chemistry and virtuosity elevated even their most mediocre material - and they had some. The Dead may have been scruffy, aimless and pie-eyed at times, but Miller could never hope to produce the sort of magic that they produced in the live arena with such surprising frequency. Shame about their more addled fans, though.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  24. B42 says This post and David's subsequqent post bring to mind something I once heard - "The Dead's music is like licorice, either you love it or you hate it" I love it, and hate just isn't where anything's happening.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  25. sonical says Agree Wanbli. I mean are people down on Jazz with Charlie Parker and Miles because of a heroin habit? Think when everyone is singing along with Sweet Jane they are thinking the lives of guys in Velvet Underground led? Drugs and music and forever connected. That's just the way it is. If you don't like something it may not be your taste but you also to open up and not categorize music as "only good if you're on acid or stoned." Unless you've listened to it on acid and that happens to be true. :-)
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  26. Scotch says I don't think anyone here is down on The Dead because of the "drug culture," they just don't like the music, and assume that it takes heavy drug use to enjoy it. Personally, I don't actively dislike the Dead, they just ain't my bag.
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  27. B42 says Google Fight - Grateful Dead - 6,590,000 Steve Miller Band - 1,400,000
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  28. Scotch says Heh. britney spears - 96,100,000
    Permalink posted 04/11/2008
  29. earthman says this was worth reading
    Permalink posted 04/12/2008
  30. darmuzz says Neither for me, thanks
    Permalink posted 04/12/2008
  31. Dave says Somebody needs to close their italic tags - we're all emphasizing over here!
    Permalink posted 04/12/2008
  32. steve simon says bruce, i love that old licorice line. screw steve miller
    Permalink posted 04/12/2008
  33. GuitarObsessed says If Steve has so much disdain for the Dead, then why did he open for them for a whole summer in '92, and jam with them every night? "Money talks, BS walks" -- Bobbi Flekman
    Permalink posted 04/15/2008
  34. BerkeleyBob says I met Steve Miller ca. 1966 in Berkeley, the weekend before his first West Coast gig at either the Fillmore or possibly the Carousel. He was not impressed with the musicianship of the local bands he heard, thought Chicago was much more unforgiving. He started out playing frat parties in Texas, and yeah, Boz was a part of his band. Ben Sidran was a really good keyboard player with jazz chops, composition and arranging credits. Children of the Future was pretty damn' good and of its time. I do think his later work wasn't as interesting. He did play with the Dead; so did Dylan but so what? I agree the Dead could catch fire but not consistently; Steve was more consistent but he too was capable of lift off... BerkBob
    Permalink posted 04/15/2008
  35. jcain79 says i have noticed that quite a few bands rag on the dead for some reason. I am neither a dead head or a huge Steve miller fan, but i will listen to both of them. I think they rag on them because the people that do enjoy them, love them and treat them like gods, cant say that i blame them if you dig it you dig it. I'm sure we all love bands out there that other people don't get. Maybe Steve is just pissed because his fans are not as die hard about him as the dead heads are about jerry.
    Permalink posted 04/15/2008
  36. Grateful Dead can Dance says Steve Miller is a tool. He always had a propensity to shoot his mouth off, and he has no biz criticizing anyone. Yeh Steve...Fly like an Eagle away from me. Into the bargain bin you go.
    Permalink posted 04/15/2008
  37. Spike says To Sturgell 4/11/08: I like this instrumental "Slinky" from Steve Miller Band's 1986 album Living in the 20th Century.
    Permalink posted 04/15/2008
  38. sonical says Hey Guitar -- Love the Spinal Tap Bobbi is and always be the hostess with the mostest.
    Permalink posted 04/15/2008
  39. August West says It's truly sad that Miller is still jealous of the Grateful Dead almost 13 years after they stopped playing. In those 13 years, they have sold more music that Miller did during his whole career. Why he is so bitter is beyond me. The Dead let him open for them in 92, when nobody even remembered his name. I believe many of the anti Dead posts come from bitter people who could not and still don't get it. "We know a little something you won't ever know." If they went to a show, maybe they would have had a different view. But it is human nature to attack what they don't understand. Garcia's quote was " The Dead's music is like licorice. Some like licorice and some don't. But the ones that do like licorice, REALLY like licorice.
    Permalink posted 04/16/2008
  40. Sturgell says I forget where now, but there was some dude who linked to my post and it go massive play.
    Permalink posted 04/26/2008

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