Indeep’s “When Boys Talk” including the acapella
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This twelve-inch single from 1983 caught my ear that year, the one time I heard it on the radio. Just as it ended, the radio d.j. was like whoa! I was like whoa. A friend who visited later said she'd been like whoa. So to speak. Soon after, I learned that Indeep had a much more popular hit, "Last Night the D.J. Saved My Life," which I seem to remember not liking. Was "When Boys Talk" not a real hit because maybe other d.j.'s didn't also play its second part, which was acapella? None of its YouTubes feature the second part. Indeep consisted of songwriter-musician Mike Kennedy (who co-produced and mixed this with Reggie Thompson), and singers Réjane Magloire and Rose Marie Ramsey.
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I listened to this and I was like, Whoa. My daughter walked in while I was playing it and she said, Whoa. I was replaying it when the postman stopped by & he was like, whoa. A neighbor called & said, "hello". I said..."don't change the subject".
I hope your neighbor was against change.
So many of my neighbors have done a 180 in the last year I lost count. Would you like some Tea?
How an Indeep song could inspire that exchange shows you have we are a nation divided..:)))Dug 'em a bunch in their day..and I would say When Boys Talk might've been a bigger club spin than their radio hit..Nice one.
dmdm, ah, if only I could visit, have some Tea and watch these whirling changelings.
Cody, the acapella part would have been a problem for club dj's if people had a hard time dancing to it, though I guess good dancers could have handled it.
whoa
yotochan, you gear-shifter, you, you wouldn't mind my following that with this, would you?
Don't worry Spike, DJ's mixed some beats in w/the acapella..
Cody, but why? That would make it the same as Part One. On the other hand, the d.j. could really get creative.
Dat's what acapella's are for, a gift and invitaion for Dj's..DJ's appreciate the acapellas cause they can use them for transitions. Artists who include acapellas get more attention from DJ's..great for scratching too. Didn't these acapellas come with small bands inbetween each vocal part?..That's for easy cueing.
i'm a hook slut, spike.
Sorry, but I feel compelled to say something that's mostly off-topic. Last night, Mrs. Ivylander and I went to hear an excellent gospel choir (from the African Episcopal Choir of St. Thomas in Philadelphia) and I keep seeing them clapping their hands as I'm listening to the electronic handclapping here. The beats are oddly similar....
Cody, DOH! [the complete opposite of DUH!] Why didn't I realize until now that the extra tracks on a twelve-inch single are for d.j.'s to use? Side 2 has three shortened versions: an instrumental mix, and two "Scratch" versions, which, in the one time I listened to them 27 years ago, I dismissed as less interesting experiments for self-absorbed non-dancers like me to listen to at home. Since I never acquired more than a handful of twelve-inch singles, I've never heard added accapella tracks elsewhere.
yotochan, don't tell anyone, but I'm like you.
ivylander, I'm a link slut, so don't apologize. I wish I'd been there. Do they have a CD that's any good?
I'd completely forgotten this single. At the time it was a reasonable hit in the LA area, especially with KGFJ's Satirday night mixathons. IMO it wasn't a bigger hit because it's too close to 'Last Night a DJ...' and not as good. You should give 'DJ' another listen!
Jonh, I just downloaded it (legally) and gave it another listen, and it's not bad! IMHO, though, it's not as good as "When Boys Talk." :-)
That's what makes music fun! Since the thread has been talking mixing and scratching, the toilet flushing on 'DJ' definitely contributed to its popularity in clubs.
It inspired listeners to contemplate the more metaphysical dimensions of consciousness.
It this off-topic, or is it the elephant in the room? I never talked like this clod. One-on-one is one-on-one. I don't want to hear it, either.
Then there's the risky side. She can say anything she wants to in retaliation. I've heard THAT and it was TMI for sure.
Definitely pointed lyrics.
TMI means too much information, right? You're right that she's no saint either. Shortly after first hearing this record long ago, I imagined being a school principal speaking to the student body about how boys shouldn't talk that way. Sometimes I'm such a moralist.
can't listen to the accapella, only the main track, but as a dj i can tell you the accapella would fit perfectly with the "rappers delight" instrumental (which is also included in the 12" as a dj tool).
soulmuppet, the LittleMp3 player just above my post's text features the main track followed by the acapella. Does it play for you? Let me know if it doesn't. It seems that the MOG players above it don't work for un-Americans.
If "Rapper's Delight" has exactly the same tempo as "When Boys Talk," I'm not surprised. It seemed, to this non-expert, that disco-type clubs stereotypically played music all with the same tempo. Earliest rap had relatively unimaginative instrumental accompaniment, and Sugarhill started it off in 1979 by using Chic's "Good Times" so many times, I started saying nursury rhymes.
unfortunately those small payers doesnt work for me at all, but no biggie i already found the accapella on p2p.
the instrumental & the accapella doesnt need to have the same tempo, there is a little gadget on decks called "the pitch control" that basically speeds the record up & down until the beat matches the accapella on a -8/+8 range. and that is what those mashups mike brings to mog every week are about, thought the spirit of the mashups (or refixes as i prefer to call them) is to mix stuff you would never imagine it could go well together.
Mashups, remixes, subs, and online parodies are new and refreshing online phenomena, but they partake of an ancient tradition: the recycling of old culture to make new. In spite of our romantic cliches about the anguished lone creator, the entire history of cultural production from Aeschylus through Shakespeare to Clueless has shown that all creators stand, as Isaac Newton (and so many others) put it, "on the shoulders of giants."
From Code of Best Practices in Fair Use for Online Videos by Peter Jaszi
I'm glad you found it. I liked this song partly because the acapella part followed the first part smoothly enough to make it seem it was all one track. I wonder if the LittleMp3 player doesn't work for Spaniards. poebegone, a Philippine Mogger, uses them. A lot of Moggers use DivShare players, but someone grumbled that they make illegal downloading too easy. Re your second paragraph, I forgot about "the pitch control," but because I had to have known about it earlier in order to be able to have forgotten it, I was therefore not Clueless.
i reckon i can make playlist & all that too, but same as mrs. poe i cannot listen to the tracks.
as far as i can remember you could download tracks from mog before too with the old players, im sure you can still do the same with the new ones; with streaming music everything can go down to your pc. i see the use of the divshare players on mog as a deference to us "unamerican" users. i am trying to avoid going thru a discusion about illegal/legal issues here but i guess it is ok to use those players because if anyone downloads the music its not you who provided a direct link, they "cheat" to get it. same as they could cheat with the small players. just saying...
the pitch control always saves the day. when i didnt have proper decks i used to speed up the record by spinning the label with my finger & slowing it down by smoothly pressing the plate with the finger too. there are a lot of easy-to-follow tutorials on youtube if you search for "dj + dummy".
oh.. and the littlemp3 player works for me, but i can only listen to the main track without the accapella there. guess i mistook what you said up there about the divplayer, i get it now.
If my Littlemp3 Player works for you but doesn't play you the complete nine minute track that includes the acapella, a track which I put together and which the player supposedly uploaded from my hard-drive into some location that LittleMp3 or MOG knows about, if "they" decided that you didn't deserve to hear it the way I wanted you to hear it, then my people are going to have to go and twist a few-----no, maybe I should just take a nap.
Weird enough the whole version is now available, man. Ha!
A nap sounds great to me, i just woke up from a 2 hours one hungry as only a caveman can be.
Chow down now, my friend.