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Trent Reznor is mad.....

Posted over 2 years ago
  • Artist:
  • Album:
    With Teeth (Tour Edition)
  • Track:
    Hand That Feeds - (studio)
Trent Reznor apparently has a bone to pick with the Universal Music Group. He claims the music compnay is ripping off their customers, and he is not going to stand by and let it happen. Trent was quoted as saying the following:As the climate grows more and more desperate for record labels, their answer to their mostly self-inflicted wounds seems to be to screw the consumer over even more. A couple of examples that quickly come to mind:* The ABSURD retail pricing of Year Zero in Australia. Shame on you, UMG. Year Zero is selling for $34.99 Australian dollars ($29.10 US). No wonder people steal music. Avril Lavigne's record in the same store was $21.99 ($18.21 US).By the way, when I asked a label rep about this his response was: "It's because we know you have a real core audience that will pay whatever it costs when you put something out - you know, true fans. It's the pop stuff we have to discount to get people to buy."So... I guess as a reward for being a "true fan" you get ripped off.* The dreaded EURO Maxi-single. Nothing but a consumer rip-off that I've been talked into my whole career. No more.The point is, I am trying my best to make sure the music and items NIN puts in the marketplace have value, substance and are worth you considering purchasing. I am not allowing Capital G to be repackaged into several configurations that result in you getting ripped off.We are planning a full-length remix collection of substance that will be announced soon. Guess its the waiting game to hear the excuse that the Universal Music Group comes up with to explain themselves.

Comments (19)

  1. iwanttofillyourmouthwithspiders says Go get em, Trent! $18.21 still sounds a bit pricey for Avril... unless there is a NIN CD in there too!!!
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  2. Dale says Bite the hand that feeds, hahahahahahaha. He's got a point, though; $30 for a CD?!? Total rip-off.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  3. chulsmith says sounds about right - in paris, cds are usually about 20 euros ($25) new. that's why i....plead the FIF...when it comes to music downloads...
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  4. kat3260 says hell yeah!!! I hadn't read the blog entry (what kind of a NIN fan am I? I let my Spiral membership expire!) so I really appreciate the heads up. Once again, my love for Trent grows :D
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  5. Nixne Svix says I buy cd's , i burn cd's ...ive paid my dues and my collection shows it. i wonder though how many kids these days actually have been in a record store. and not that shitty mall one. but Trent is right , if the music is good , the discs will sell and to your show they will come. the record stores must move from litigation to integration and realize the money is still there for the taking; but give the consumer their monies WORTH.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  6. chucky says Good for him.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  7. Nixne Svix says >record stores (companies, ceo's et al...)
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  8. mktackabery says I understand what you're saying Nixne; I've always felt that the pricing model is what has screwed the record companies since discs came out. Since the beginning they knew they were getting away with bloody murder because music on cd is so cheap to produce. But because cd's are smaller, they convinced themselves that thievery was going to be rampant, and they spent ridiculous amounts on the packaging to justify pricing cds higher than LPs. There's always an excuse for gouging the consumer . . . the problem now is that nobody knows what their money's worth IS. We don't know, and the artists have never got a chance to decide that for themselves, either. Is it ten percent profit over operating costs? Forty? Twenty? Who decides? Along comes the web with essentially a more or less tamper proof model, if they would just get over themselves. Yeah, people are going to give away music to other people, but that's really not their problem. They should spend the time and money they now spend fighting people downloading illegally and pump up their online distribution models, come up with new ways to market, instantaneous delivery now being so easy to do and so frigging cheap that marketing should also be cheap . . . but oh no, we've got to pay all the lawyers! It's just insane. There is no answer. The recording industry is like bizarro world.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  9. doombilly says All CDs are overpriced. I did not realize they stuck it to some fans more than others. But it cannot be that big of a surprise that UMG is a corporate puss bag? Trent, don't make a deal with the devil and then complain about the heat.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  10. milkshake says I don't know much about what is considered expensive in the US, but the Yero Zero seems to be priced OK for me (I'm not too sure about album prices in the UK, but I think on the first week of an album release it's £10/£11 and then it goes up to £13/£14 the following week, though any chart CDs can be bought for £10 at Tescos.)
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  11. Augusts1 says Trent is so ultra cool. I love him! Thanx for the info. Kev.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  12. soulrocket says Music & DVDs are priced around 1,5 times more expensive in Europe than in the USA. It always has been like that. It is true that hardcore-fans will buy anything at any price, but still the CD format has to be accepted as a collectable item. Meaning its price will increase when deleted. Since i can make a perfect copy of the original (including a scan of the label & the cover) for cheaper than the actual thing cost, collectors seem to be very reluctant to trust the digital format. Spending money on CDs & years later finding out that your CD collection is worth 1/20 of its original price is something to take on consideration.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  13. contrabandwidth says I might by it as altruistic on his part if he wasn't the same person who released a billion different remixes, singles and stuff off of his albums. Trent just might be the king of repackaging old material ($$).
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  14. Mike the Knife says He was up above it. Now, he's down in it. Let him rail, and maybe force a little change for the good of the consumer.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  15. jameson says Just a prime example of how the artist is a slave to his employer.... it's a shame. Glad Trent is pissed!
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  16. summer eyes says i must say way to go for him. i try to buy music whenever possible, but thats an expensive habit (rivaling my shoe collection) which sometimes results in downloading.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  17. RGM says My balls itch...
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  18. BarrieSutcliffe says I agree with RGM... Reznor has a right to be pissed off at the record execs but he knew this would happen. I have no idea why he would not completely ditch the major label machine completely. He has lots of money, and his own label (Nothing). In fact I find it absurd that if he feels this way he made any deal with them at all. Let me get this clear. Major labels don't need to be restructured. They need to be completely destroyed. They are pathetic, antiquated devices that feed rendered chow to an apathetic, innured fan base. I don't understand why any artist would want their music distributed by that crap, regardless of how extensive distribution is. In short, Reznor, don't complain about UMG, because they won't change. They will collapse into a pile of junk bonds, and that is the best situation we can hope for. Do something yourself.
    Permalink posted 05/14/2007
  19. Lizziegreeneyes says When PJ fought against the BS of TicketBASTARD, I gained a whole new level of respect for them ... how can they stand by & let a company ensure that so many of their fans get left behind - would you believe that as big a fan of PJ as I am, I have never been able to see them live ...in large part to the TBs & also the shows sell out in minutes, literally & locally (Phila). I applaud Trent Reznor as well - can't say it surprises me ... the guy is also on a level of PJ in his respect for his fans ... BarrieS: You are *ABSOLUTELY* right. Major record companies are all about packaging, all about the look - substance has been pushed aside to make room for shite. We need to go way past cutting them off at the knees - they need to be put down, to let *us* out of our misery !!! In all the years I've spent as a collecting music junkie, I've rarely picked up singles - it just seems a waste (sure there are certain ones I _had_ to have), but by in large, I stuck with the albums ... I also avoided most greatest hits ... chances were I had all the songs on that mix within my own collection. I try to keep a rule with myself that I won't spend more than 50-70 on a ticket. If I have to go to that high end I don't beat myself up if only for the fact that I've seen so many shows in coffee houses or smaller venues where I've spent as little as $8 to see Willy Mason or $20 for Duncan Sheik. I've even seen some free shows through WXPN's "Free at Noon" shows - Medeski Martin & Wood, Ben Folds, Ben Harper, Hall & Oates, Charlotte Martin ... It is *SO* rare that I burn an album, in the same line as Nixne Svix, my collection proves that I am *for the most part* a _loyal customer_. But I'm not going to beat myself up when I download something or get a copy from a friend ... I've *more* than paid my dues ... As mktack also says ... it costs pennies to make a CD - how they can charge $30 is CRIMINAL. I've read of people joining the Police / Genesis Fan Clubs to get their hands on good tickets - paying several hundred for a membership sometimes & then several hundred PER ticket - & come to find they are sitting behind a pole in the nosebleeds ... this is becoming so ridiculous it makes me want to break down & cry !!!!
    Permalink posted 05/15/2007

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