The functionality is pretty incredible, and that is undeniable. It combines the best capabilities of every big music site out there. You have to admit that! And while I've noticed a few holes (independant artists anyone??), the 6 million tracks culled here are pretty rad. I'd like the ability to add a song to a playlist that doesn't exist in the catalog, tho...
I don't think it matters of functionality when all things are said and done, I'm not about to pay for the right to stream music to my pc or laptop. I will never pay for music I cant own. This model has been tried before with at best limited success. I wish Mog luck but I don't see this as a solution that will create a reliable cash flow.
Which majors aren't on board? I thought they were all on board. EMD? I know the Beatles stuff isn't on. What's a good subscription rate for this service?
With SOME due respect, RW, many of us have seen MOG go through several major changes over the 3+ years of it's development, for better or worse. Since the summer of 2006 we've been waiting for this. And it is by far one of the greatest things to hit the internet in a long time. I can understand your position, though. You don't find it necessary to pay 5 bucks to listen to pretty much anything, and that's cool. It's tough not physically owning something. However, I think it's well worth it. Think about how sucky Rhapsody is. MOG is ten times that. At a fraction of the price (and quality). I mean, I can listen to some random songs at last.fm too. And I can download almost any album I'd like to off of the blogs, too. I can listen to 30 second samples on mog and Amazon and countless other sites too. But for 5 bucks, I can get an enormous amount of material to listen to. It makes sense. It's all in one place. Try it. I was skeptical, until I sat with it and created an instant playlist based on a friends top 20 albums of 2009 list. There were at least 6 albums that I wasn't familiar with, and in seconds, I was streaming each full length album at 320kbps. That made me very very happy, and sold me on the new Mog service, and 6 new artists I was unfamiliar with. Try that somewhere else.
“MOG go through several major changes over the 3+ years of it's development, for better or worse’ Yea I have had at least 2 different accounts here and am well aware of the issues surrounding Mog. And while I was here no one ever wanted that. That might explain why so few original Moggers are not still around.
"You don't find it necessary to pay 5 bucks to listen to pretty much anything, and that's cool" Anything that is that cool it is already in my collection.
"sucky Rhapsody is. MOG is ten times that. At a fraction of the price (and quality)" And you could turn tour stereo on and get it free, as long as people can do that paying to stream music is a hard sell.
“was streaming each full length album at 320kbps” A lossless format is the only way to get audiophiles to subscribe
"Try that somewhere else" That statement would apply if you had a profitable business model to emulate.
As someone who has worked in the music industry for quite some time and judging the amount of traffic that Mog gets I don’t think it will pan out. (that’s just my opinion) So on this point I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
Well, I don't disagree with you... that's for sure, but you're obvously reaching in a lot of your responses. lol. I've got the perfect hard drive full of music, and so do you, and so does PIMP and Cody and everyone other music addict on this site. Mog is built around sharing ideas and music. I like that.
I'm with Pimp, & RockWisdom. I have most of the stuff I like, & I don't want to pay for something I can't own in a physical format like a CD, or recored. One thing I've learned being on Mog is the limits of my taste of music. I'm not big on Rap, Diva, & Emo music. Although there may be a tune here or there that I find alright in these style's. Also I thought free music got paid for by ad's or a tax the put on burnable CD's. One thing I learned was that music always get's paid for one way or another.
I'll have to agree, Mog has gone through a ton of change's since I joined back around 2006.
I don't know if I would pay for it or not. I used to be against paying to stream. But I travel a lot now, and my iPod doesn't hold my whole music collection. The other night I was in a hotel room and wanted to hear an album that wasn't on my iPod and I could do that here. For that level of convenience it might be worth it to me, but I can see how it wouldn't be for other people.
I think it's ahead of it's time..When streaming gets to the point it can be on your phone,in your car, and the database can grow by users adding to it then it might be THE WAY.
Of course there will always be hard copy fetishists and digital hoarders, but if all the major artists begin to support it and as CD sales continue to decline, it is going to be viable..Portability away from the computer is key,key,key...but I also think what jameson said about adding songs from your own digital library is key.
If integration can occur, the streaming sites could allow plays for tunes that belong to someone else on their system even though they don't have it..they would just be "grey dots" to everyone else, but as I said somewhere earlier, if they took that information and attempted to "legitimize" songs not in their database it could create an income stream from dormant titles and then everyone could stream them..and artists could get paid.
But despite reports the CD ain't dead yet, so it'll be a little while.
I don't see the CD going away anytime soon, although I remember reading that Blu-ray disc can hold a lot more music that CD's, or DVD's. & they are not suppose to scratch as easy. That would be a cool route to go. LP's have made a comeback, I don't see 8track, & cassette making one though. I listen to music online sometimes, but it sucks when something is updating on your computer & your into an album. If I download anything of the internet, & usually burn it to disc. I worry about viruses getting on my computer erasing, or infecting things. I haven't jumped on the mp3 or iPod band wagon, mainly because iPod's are expensive. I'm at home a lot so CD's work well for me. I got an external HD for my laptop, so I might add my music to my computer again when I upgrade my memory.
It took me awhile to make the switch to digital, but I did it..I can beam it to my stereo if I want. I like the idea of streaming, but I don't like that it doesn't have all the songs I want.
I definitely see CD's going away..in maybe 10 years time there will be a lot less of 'em. The problem with CD's is that there's less music available on them than vinyl or digital in terms of the overall catalog size.
Also, they are truly lame as collectors items..sure there are some rare items, but essentially they are just data carriers..I mean an original CD pressing of Jimi Hendrix is inferior to later versions, unlike LP's, where original pressings have value.
"There are sites like imeen where you can listen to albums for free."
true,true, but I don't think that's sustainable either and their selection is far from complete. If streaming becomes THE WAY, places like that will have to go underground.
"It took me awhile to make the switch to digital, but I did it..I can beam it to my stereo if I want. I like the idea of streaming, but I don't like that it doesn't have all the songs I want. I definitely see CD's going away..in maybe 10 years time there will be a lot less of 'em. The problem with CD's is that there's less music available on them than vinyl or digital in terms of the overall catalog size. Also, they are truly lame as collectors items..sure there are some rare items, but essentially they are just data carriers..I mean an original CD pressing of Jimi Hendrix is inferior to later versions, unlike LP's, where original pressings have value."
The big thing about CD's when they first came out was the quality of sound. It was a great clear sound without hiss, or scratch's. The sound is still supirior compared to the mp3 IMO. I like the sound qulity of music on DVD better. I got an early release of "A Perfect Circle's" first album before it came out on a DVD. I bought the CD later, the quality on the DVD is superior on the DVD. I guess it's about the quality of the format for me. That't true I have bought updated versions of CD's to replace older one's. I'll probaly give into streaming more overtime,but I don't see myself replacing my car CD player any time soon. I think we are going to be left with a multiple pile of formats to choose from in the end.
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it will be hard to pay for stuff i already have or can get
and last time i looked BIG holes
i'll check again
when i'm ull time employed i shall consider
IF they can wrap up ALL major labels
Its not something I would subscribe to, Even with all major labels.
The functionality is pretty incredible, and that is undeniable. It combines the best capabilities of every big music site out there. You have to admit that! And while I've noticed a few holes (independant artists anyone??), the 6 million tracks culled here are pretty rad. I'd like the ability to add a song to a playlist that doesn't exist in the catalog, tho...
I don't think it matters of functionality when all things are said and done, I'm not about to pay for the right to stream music to my pc or laptop. I will never pay for music I cant own. This model has been tried before with at best limited success. I wish Mog luck but I don't see this as a solution that will create a reliable cash flow.
Which majors aren't on board? I thought they were all on board. EMD? I know the Beatles stuff isn't on. What's a good subscription rate for this service?
THIS might help, Eric.
With SOME due respect, RW, many of us have seen MOG go through several major changes over the 3+ years of it's development, for better or worse. Since the summer of 2006 we've been waiting for this. And it is by far one of the greatest things to hit the internet in a long time. I can understand your position, though. You don't find it necessary to pay 5 bucks to listen to pretty much anything, and that's cool. It's tough not physically owning something. However, I think it's well worth it. Think about how sucky Rhapsody is. MOG is ten times that. At a fraction of the price (and quality). I mean, I can listen to some random songs at last.fm too. And I can download almost any album I'd like to off of the blogs, too. I can listen to 30 second samples on mog and Amazon and countless other sites too. But for 5 bucks, I can get an enormous amount of material to listen to. It makes sense. It's all in one place. Try it. I was skeptical, until I sat with it and created an instant playlist based on a friends top 20 albums of 2009 list. There were at least 6 albums that I wasn't familiar with, and in seconds, I was streaming each full length album at 320kbps. That made me very very happy, and sold me on the new Mog service, and 6 new artists I was unfamiliar with. Try that somewhere else.
“MOG go through several major changes over the 3+ years of it's development, for better or worse’
Yea I have had at least 2 different accounts here and am well aware of the issues surrounding Mog. And while I was here no one ever wanted that. That might explain why so few original Moggers are not still around.
"You don't find it necessary to pay 5 bucks to listen to pretty much anything, and that's cool"
Anything that is that cool it is already in my collection.
"sucky Rhapsody is. MOG is ten times that. At a fraction of the price (and quality)"
And you could turn tour stereo on and get it free, as long as people can do that paying to stream music is a hard sell.
“was streaming each full length album at 320kbps”
A lossless format is the only way to get audiophiles to subscribe
"Try that somewhere else"
That statement would apply if you had a profitable business model to emulate.
As someone who has worked in the music industry for quite some time and judging the amount of traffic that Mog gets I don’t think it will pan out. (that’s just my opinion) So on this point I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
Well, I don't disagree with you... that's for sure, but you're obvously reaching in a lot of your responses. lol. I've got the perfect hard drive full of music, and so do you, and so does PIMP and Cody and everyone other music addict on this site. Mog is built around sharing ideas and music. I like that.
I'm with Pimp, & RockWisdom. I have most of the stuff I like, & I don't want to pay for something I can't own in a physical format like a CD, or recored. One thing I've learned being on Mog is the limits of my taste of music. I'm not big on Rap, Diva, & Emo music. Although there may be a tune here or there that I find alright in these style's. Also I thought free music got paid for by ad's or a tax the put on burnable CD's. One thing I learned was that music always get's paid for one way or another.
I'll have to agree, Mog has gone through a ton of change's since I joined back around 2006.
I don't know if I would pay for it or not. I used to be against paying to stream. But I travel a lot now, and my iPod doesn't hold my whole music collection. The other night I was in a hotel room and wanted to hear an album that wasn't on my iPod and I could do that here. For that level of convenience it might be worth it to me, but I can see how it wouldn't be for other people.
I think it's ahead of it's time..When streaming gets to the point it can be on your phone,in your car, and the database can grow by users adding to it then it might be THE WAY.
Of course there will always be hard copy fetishists and digital hoarders, but if all the major artists begin to support it and as CD sales continue to decline, it is going to be viable..Portability away from the computer is key,key,key...but I also think what jameson said about adding songs from your own digital library is key.
If integration can occur, the streaming sites could allow plays for tunes that belong to someone else on their system even though they don't have it..they would just be "grey dots" to everyone else, but as I said somewhere earlier, if they took that information and attempted to "legitimize" songs not in their database it could create an income stream from dormant titles and then everyone could stream them..and artists could get paid.
But despite reports the CD ain't dead yet, so it'll be a little while.
I don't see the CD going away anytime soon, although I remember reading that Blu-ray disc can hold a lot more music that CD's, or DVD's. & they are not suppose to scratch as easy. That would be a cool route to go. LP's have made a comeback, I don't see 8track, & cassette making one though. I listen to music online sometimes, but it sucks when something is updating on your computer & your into an album. If I download anything of the internet, & usually burn it to disc. I worry about viruses getting on my computer erasing, or infecting things. I haven't jumped on the mp3 or iPod band wagon, mainly because iPod's are expensive. I'm at home a lot so CD's work well for me. I got an external HD for my laptop, so I might add my music to my computer again when I upgrade my memory.
There are sites like imeen where you can listen to albums for free.
It took me awhile to make the switch to digital, but I did it..I can beam it to my stereo if I want. I like the idea of streaming, but I don't like that it doesn't have all the songs I want.
I definitely see CD's going away..in maybe 10 years time there will be a lot less of 'em. The problem with CD's is that there's less music available on them than vinyl or digital in terms of the overall catalog size.
Also, they are truly lame as collectors items..sure there are some rare items, but essentially they are just data carriers..I mean an original CD pressing of Jimi Hendrix is inferior to later versions, unlike LP's, where original pressings have value.
"There are sites like imeen where you can listen to albums for free."
true,true, but I don't think that's sustainable either and their selection is far from complete. If streaming becomes THE WAY, places like that will have to go underground.
"It took me awhile to make the switch to digital, but I did it..I can beam it to my stereo if I want. I like the idea of streaming, but I don't like that it doesn't have all the songs I want. I definitely see CD's going away..in maybe 10 years time there will be a lot less of 'em. The problem with CD's is that there's less music available on them than vinyl or digital in terms of the overall catalog size. Also, they are truly lame as collectors items..sure there are some rare items, but essentially they are just data carriers..I mean an original CD pressing of Jimi Hendrix is inferior to later versions, unlike LP's, where original pressings have value."
The big thing about CD's when they first came out was the quality of sound. It was a great clear sound without hiss, or scratch's. The sound is still supirior compared to the mp3 IMO. I like the sound qulity of music on DVD better. I got an early release of "A Perfect Circle's" first album before it came out on a DVD. I bought the CD later, the quality on the DVD is superior on the DVD. I guess it's about the quality of the format for me. That't true I have bought updated versions of CD's to replace older one's. I'll probaly give into streaming more overtime,but I don't see myself replacing my car CD player any time soon. I think we are going to be left with a multiple pile of formats to choose from in the end.