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Not In the Same Business

Posted over 2 years ago
Still in Los Angeles, I’m driving down Sunset the other night. (It’s something that I find myself doing a lot while in SoCal, because of the boulevard’s proximity to my lodgings.)After a random scan, I’ve absent-mindedly left the radio on Star 100-something, one of the ubiquitous stations running the so-called “Hot Hits” format. And what do I hear, to my surprise, but Lily Allen’s “Smile” bouncing out of the speakersI’m getting a nice groove on as I swing west down the Strip, past a crowd of wanna-be hair-band superstars and their groupies – twenty years too late, and a sad sight in any decade - milling around outside the Rainbow bar, their watering hole/meat market of choice since way back when all the Ratts in the Crue got Poison-ed.The song ends, and here comes the smarmy on-air “talent” to back-announce: “That’s Lily Allen, the latest hot singer from England, and her song ‘Smile.’ What did you think? Give us a call. Y’know, Lily Allen and new Star favorite Amy Winehouse are – heh, heh - England’s Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan! Lily and Amy are bad girls! They like to party! They’re drinkers! Like Britney and Lindsay! So tell us if you liked Lily, but forget about all the drinking. Don’t let it influence you one way or the other. Heh, heh, heh.”Thanks for the good old American idiocy, Radio Boy. Could you be more insulting to a pair of talented artists? Which pair? Oh, please. Somehow, celebrity has come to trump talent in Western Civilization. Thus, fame levels all famous people so that their actual achievements become secondary to their notoriety. It's sheer ridiculousness.Spears (now in full train-wreck mode) and Lohan (who I don’t mind as an actress) are manufactured, over-produced pop stars with technologically-boosted vocals affixed to trite, crass material, and a habit of melting down in public. Allen may have less than impressive pipes, but she makes up for it with her cunning lyrics, genuine spunk and airy charm, and an album awash in imaginative dub-and-sample-heavy production; while Winehouse (who I’ve previously and cheekily dubbed “a sex-soaked stick of dynamite”) is a gifted singer with an appreciation of pop, rock and soul history that informs and enhances her ability to channel elements of those styles into her passionate, straight-from-the-heart-material.From all the anecdotal evidence (and at least one video – Winehouse’s slurred duet with Charlotte Church as they beat on Michael Jackson’s “Beat It”), we know that Amy and Lily do party hard, and shoot off their mouths. Hell, Amy’s musical calling card is the funked-up mid-tempo confessional “Rehab,” which plays like New Orleans R& B queen Irma Thomas coming off a bender. But, even if Amy and Lily are lippy, they’ll occasionally try to debunk the pompous or make a serious point. And neither is short on wit, as you’d notice if you saw them as guest contestants on British TV’s wacky pop-culture game show “Never Mind the Buzzcocks.”Artistic merit aside, an Amy and Lily tag-team would out-drink and out-debate Britney and Lindsay with little effort. And in a no-holds-barred cage match, the Brits would chew up and spit out the Yanks within seconds of the first-round bell.No contest.Now, just for fun, Lily Allen’s jocular video for her somewhat autobiographical tune “Alfie”:And, because it begs to be seen again and again, here’s Amy Winehouse, hammered but delivering on Charlotte Church’s variety show:

Comments (29)

  1. 1234chainsaw says It's a surprise that Star hires retards? The point you're making is well-taken, Mike, and I agree with it.
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  2. CrashPryor says ...now you know why I look for the audio pug-in BEFORE starting the engine whenever I do drive...though I have been caught listening to the craziness mixed up on Jack FM once or twice...but they don't have those shrill "DJs" taking boneheaded stabs at cleverness...
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  3. Neill says True what you said about Lily and Amy, but they are Piss Artists as is Charlotte Church. It's a very strong part of our culture. (Piss Artist = Drinker)
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  4. CrashPryor says Yeah, Neill...here, in the land of the faux teetotaler, it's popular (among some) to point fingers and gossip about another person's "drinking" while keeping your habit under wraps..that DJ was probably swilling a Vodka Red Bull while doing his schtick..
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  5. Marco1019 says Your post reminds me why I stopped listening to the radio years ago. I've watched both 'Buzzcocks' shows via YouTube, and I agree that both Lily and Amy are quick-witted. Hey Crash, that 'DJ' probably thought his Vodka Red Bull was "that hot new drink".
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  6. fairportfan says Watching the Lily Allen clip reminded me - they used to do cute little mini-movies for songs, calld "videos", and there was a cable channel that did nothing bu show "videos" - "Musical Television" or something like that. Gee, i wonder why they don't do that any more...
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  7. QueenofHell says Mike, I love this: "sex-soaked stick of dynamite”. I like Alfie. It's almost as though she's singing about my little brother's best friend. Still can't get over Beat It. Still want to go for a few cocktails with Amy and Charlotte. Charlotte is also a smart, witty and forthright individual, who I respect. I've never seen a whole episode of her show, but I don't care if it's crap, I like her.
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  8. Augusts1 says I had to turn the vid off for Lilly, she is waaaaay overrated. Sure her lyrics may be witty but that monotone of hers gets annoyingly old fast(& I've only heard two of her songs). Amy does have a fantastic voice but the music I'm not wild about. I do like the motown sound but to me it's not interesting compared to her amazing voice. I did see those Buzzcock episodes w/both of them & I have to say Lilly came across as really nasty & self righteous but Amy seemed pretty fun & genuine. Lilly will be gone & forgotten in a few years but I think Amy will be around for awhile because of her incredible voice. I do agree w/your thoughts about celebrity vs. talent & the lameness of radio. However, I think the American girls could hold their own in a fight, lol.
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  9. Mike the Knife says I know, chainsaw. No shocker. Although we have all-too-many instances of fully-automatic computer-controlled radio stations in the U.S. (perfect for their robotic formats), the ones with live announcers generally hire simpletons whose only mandate is to gibber for 15 seconds in faux hip style, like they know what's going on, then get out of the way for the next piece of recycled pop drek that's being repeated for the 10th time that day, or a commercial. I believe that I tumbled onto Jack FM by accident, Crash, when I hit their wavelength while a mash-up was playing. Stayed for three old-school dance tracks, then hit scan again. Went to KCRW, and suddenly felt right at home. Marco1019: It seems like I only listen to radio when I'm in a moving vehicle, which is kinda weird for a guy who actually works as a broadcaster. But most of the time, I'm perched on the old Yamaha 200Z, and only hearing the sounds of traffic and the music in my head. It's a novel idea, fairportfan. Maybe we should start a channel... Yeah, Queen. There's something about those gals that make me think I'd like to quaff a pint with them, too. I respectfully disagree about Lily, August, even if I find her voice a little thin. She amuses and entertains me. I guess we'll see if any of them have "legs" beyond a first or second album. And I'm thinking that there would be quite an audience for a grudge-match between any and all these women. And I'm not about to suggest mud-wrestling. I'll leave the particulars to someone else.
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  10. Augusts1 says And I respect your opinion Mike, even if I don't agree. That's the beauty of music, there is a flavor for everyone palette. I'm sure if we spoke at length we'd find an artist who I adore that you don't, so different strokes, ya know! Thanks for at least 'hearing' my opinion & considering it. I'm always open to good discussion & why others enjoy an artist that I don't. It's always a great way to learn & keep an open mind.
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  11. mktackabery says Mike, I agree about the schlock, but you know, a lot of poor, well-meaning kids from college radio get sucked into that hype machine and have to deliver that trollope on purpose, and don't want to. Which may be why they are swiggin vodka red bulls . . . I haven't heard enough Lily to make up my mind but I am becoming a HUGE Amy W fan for sure. The Alfie vid cracks my shit up, I must admit.
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  12. chucky says Eh...I like Lily Allen more than all the others combined but if I'm being honest it might just be the f word and the accent. I don't know that she offers anything more substantial than Brittany in the long run. Amy Winehouse just gets on my nerves. She's the poor person's Christina Aguilera. (Good pipes, saucy demeanor.)
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  13. Rawkkiddoh says There is no comparison, they had me at their brittish accents, let alone their musical talent. Your post reminded me of David Cross, and his take on the morning show hosts and having to wake up early to meet them. The track is called Diarrhea Moustache, if you can find it, its worth the listen
    Permalink posted 03/27/2007
  14. Mike the Knife says You know it, August. The give and take on MOG is a real boon to the music lover. Seriously, Michelle, I've been listening to a lot of Lily and Amy and enjoying them both immensely, but I believe that I'll be more likely to return to Winehouse down the road. (How about that, August?) And I'm waiting for Charlotte Hatherley's The DeepBlue and The Bird and The Bee's debut album to get a bit of U.S. buzz. Over the past month or two, I've really spent more time with those recordings than any others - except for the Arcade Fire album. chucky: I'm thinking that Amy's style ain't your thing. Visuals or personas can be nice (or off-putting), but the bottom line is how the music sounds to you. I respect X-tina's vocal skills (and comedy chops - her SNL hosting stint was a blast), while preferring the deeper, darker, rootsier material of Ms. Winehouse to Aguilera's modern pop/R&B blend. Ah, David Cross. Good call, Rawk. His contempt is a beautiful noise itself.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  15. Neill says As I've stated before I don't think Amy will make it past her 5th Album; News from next months Q; . Amy Winehouse is currently cutting a swath through America with her album riding high in the Billboard charts. But rumours have it that Amy may be cutting herself as she continues to reveal distinct masochistic tendencies. Heads were initially turned at the Elle Style Awards earlier this year when she rolled up with a series of cuts on her arms. When asked about the marks she claimed they were the result of a drunken fall in New York. Now she's told Q magazine that she engaged in some self-harming in her younger days. She said: "It's a funny thing, a morbid curiosity. I'm talking about when I was nine. What does it feel like? 'Ow, that f*****g hurts'. "It's probably the worst thing I've done." She has also told The Mirror that having 13 tattoos was a painfully 'relieving' experince, adding "it's a way of suffering for the things that mean a lot to you - I like the pain". Hopefully the re-emergence of former flame ALex Claire in her life may ensure her thoughts don't go Back to Black for the time being at least. ....then again, I've had a few girl friends who have played this game...before they met me I hasten to add. And they turned out OK.....
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  16. Mike the Knife says Appreciate the update, hot off the wire, Neill. (Even if it's a bit on the grisly side...)
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  17. TBoom says Any comparison to Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan is unfair to the performer unless your Paris Hilton or K-Fed.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  18. Marco1019 says *Mike* - I do find that ironic about your radio listening habits. Then again, I'm sure I'd enjoy the sounds of traffic on a Yamaha much more. I like Lily because she appears as if she knows her vocal limitations. She doesn't come off like she thinks she's a great singer, but that's just my take. She's better off staying light and amusing. (Dare I say cheeky?) More importantly, she's also better off taking a break after this tour rather than releasing another album straightaway. *Chucky* - I was talking about Aguilera yesterday over lunch with a friend who's in the industry, and we agreed that while she may be more pop, her singing is legit. There's very little, if any, board work with her voice as opposed to Britney, Lindsay, et al. We joked that Christina may be all of 90 lbs, but most of it is lungs. Same goes for Amy since she's lost weight.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  19. Lester Jonze says Typical American mass media, they think their target audience is made up solely of eighteen year old girls.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  20. Neill says eighteen year old girls are the target for most of us. :(
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  21. Anna says Erm...aside the fact that I never expected to see the words "Lily Allen, Amy Winehouse, Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan" in the same sentence, since when does any sort of abuse (or/and age) put people on the same level? Pete Doherty and Jim Morrison can be put together then? Enraging.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  22. jenny says Mike, this is kind of a snobby thing to say but I was SHOCKED by how much I liked Lily Allen. And kind of embarrassed. I haven't gotten started yet on Amy Winehouse yet, but there's a long, sheepish discussion going on right now among some very finicky music fans about how great she is...people that usually only listen to out-of-print vinyl. I do miss the radio, though. It's turned to crap everywhere.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  23. donia says I have to disagree that Amy is delivering in that video. She sounds like crap. She can't remember the lyrics and she's out of tune. Puts me off from wanting to see her live, though she sounds great on record. I would say Amy is this generation's Cat Power: great recorded, questionable live. Hopefully, like Cat, she'll get off the sauce and become all-around awesome.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  24. Mike the Knife says donia, I didn't say what she was delivering, just that she was delivering. She's hammered, remember? If you want to see her in regular (more, um, professional) live-performance mode, try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP0MP3FXnFw&NR Or this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muz7uZ-VYqU&mode=related&search=
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  25. chucky says Marco, for sure. The lady has chops. Mike, you are right. I don't like the the 60s kind of vibe from Amy Winehouse. I've never been able to appreciate that style.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  26. Mike the Knife says As most of us have learned, one of the wonderful things about MOG is that people with differing tastes can get along and usually do. Those differences can expose us to music that we otherwise would miss or ignore - and might like if we heard it. Or not, chucky. ;-) Yes, Anna. These jabbering, undiscerning puds who are fixated on people's peccadillos instead of their art are enough to cause me to "Hulk out." As Bruce Banner said, "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." And don't worry, jenny. Your guilty pleasure is our little secret - like my affection for Bing Crosby's "Be Careful, It's My Heart" and Sheryl Crow's "My Favorite Mistake." Don't ask, don't tell.
    Permalink posted 03/28/2007
  27. LadyC says good call mike and damn if i haven't seen anyone write about or include 'poison' in their post for a while ;-) in the same vein, i've stopped many music mag subscriptions in the last few years to some longtime favourites of mine because even some of the best have succombed to the same gossip ridden, tabloid crap writing and features. the ones who remain true i can't afford lol
    Permalink posted 03/29/2007
  28. Mike the Knife says Merci, LadyC. Re: Poison - it's no big secret that the ingestion of poison leads to nausea, or worse! Re: Blather about the personal lives of the celebs - also nauseating.
    Permalink posted 04/03/2007

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