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A Frightened Rabbit upstages the mighty Pinback

Posted over 2 years ago
I love when I time things just right and upon walking in the door of a venue to see a concert I am greeted with the band taking the stage within minutes of my arrival. This was the case when I went to see San Diego’s Pinback and Glasgow, Scotland’s Frightened Rabbit. Just as my friend and I were getting our first beer and trying to figure out where we were going to set up camp for the show, Frightened Rabbit took the stage. I must admit I had little interest in seeing Frightened Rabbit after a very quick unfair listen of some of their songs from their myspace site. After the first song I looked to my friend and gave him the universal “that was not too bad” glance. By the third song not only was I starting to get into it but the three quarters full venue was starting to get into it as well. Frightened Rabbit were rocking the joint pretty hard with their brand of short heartfelt rock songs. These guys were playing their hearts out up there. The drummer looked like he was trying to smash his drumsticks thru his drumheads. His facial expressions were of the sort that you could tell this guy was giving it everything he had and leaving nothing behind. The lead singer was pretty passionate as well. Flailing about shaking his head with sweat blowing off his brow being backlit by the somber lit stage. It just felt like such a sincere rock and roll moment. By the end of the set I was pretty sure I would stop by the merch table to buy a cd from them. After a moderate wait, Pinback came onto the stage with little ado. Prior to this they actually were getting their own equipment ready instead of roadies. It took me a few minutes to realize that it was Rob Crow up on the stage getting his own equipment ready. I am not a song name remembering kind of person but they opened the show with a song I was not familiar with. I was instantly disappointed in the sound coming from the stage. The vocals were mixed way to high and the guitar was really lost behind the drums and the vocals and the bass was there but kind of just muddled in nowhere. I have noticed this from time to time when seeing live shows that it sometimes takes about 2 songs or so for the sound man to get everything right mix wise so I was not overly concerned. By the time song three had rolled around they had already done one of my favorites “The Devil You Know” and things were not getting any better sound wise. The sound mix was ok to acceptable for some of the songs but that may have just been a fluke. I have been to several shows at the Fine Line and I have never had issues like this with the mix before. I then started wondering if it was not maybe partially the band. They really did not seem that into it and the crowd was not very responsive like they were for Frightened Rabbit. I thought this to be strange, I mean how often do you go to a show where the opening band really just rocks so hard that the main band just pretty much falls flat? This was the case at the Pinback show.One irritating thing is that they kept playing this sample between the songs from some 80’s style heavy metal band saying “thank you” between songs. I got a chuckle out of it at first, but it started to get old as they would do it several times during the song breaks. To make matters worse, they were playing their songs way to fast. Fortress their lone “radio hit” was terribly sped up and it suffered from the sped up playing style. Part of what allures me to Pinback is the layers upon layers of subtle sound and small details that fill their music. Most of those sounds were there it is just that the band did not seem very tight, which it needs to be for full appreciation in their sound in my opinion.I am pretty bummed that I am bummed about the Pinback show. Part of it may be unjust very high expectations on my part but that is only part of it. There are things that could have been better that simply were not. Pinback’s “energy” was lacking. It was not the crisp high quality I am used to in their studio recordings. Maybe they are a studio band? Frankly the mix was maybe the worst I have seen in recent concert history. I don’t know and I am curious to other’s thoughts on their experiences seeing Pinback live. I went to see Pinback and left a Frightened Rabbit. I still love Pinback, but I gained another band. The way I see it, I am still up one band.Stay tuned for a review of Frightened Rabbit's record "Sing the Greys".

Comments (21)

  1. walkingthecow says i have a feeling that pinback has gotten themselves in a pickle especially being such a great studio band. it is extremely difficult to play their parts on the instruments and also sing. i too have heard that their live shows are a bit of a disappointment.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  2. Augusts1 says I think high expectations of a band you love can be a deterrent when you see them live, although most bands these days _know_ that a live show can make all the difference in the world as far as gaining/maintaining a fan base. I've fortunately rarely fun into a band not being good live. Sorry you had to encounter that. And it could be that it was just an off night for them. I had a similar experience w/Yeah Yeah Yeahs who I adore & finally saw a year ago at the Download Festival. I have a live dvd of them in concert which was really great & I had heard lots of press about their live shows. But they ended up having sound/mike problems & so their performance was less than my expectations. And I think that sound problems really effect the energy of a group since they get frustrated that the equipment isn't working properly. Surprised you didn't have any music posted here.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  3. ardyjormkiv says i was going to see them on monday and now i'm not so sure. especially cuz i was expecting a really high energy set from them...i do like frightened rabbit so maybe it's worth it just for them? anyway, thanks for the review.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  4. Marigold says Walking. I aggree. I should have thought this is a studio band. I will say that they were pretty talented. I am just curious that if the mix been better I would have been fine with it. Don't bands of this size at least have a sound guy that travels with them to mix their sound? Was it a venue soundman? Am I the only one that felt this way? I am not a professional reviewer. I am just some dude who went to a concert and knows that I did not like something about it. Augusts. I aggree that this could have really affected my veiw of the show. I am usually very good at keeping a VERY low expectation and hope for the best. I just thought Pinback would be perfect and they were not. I should mention. The band was not haveing any issues with how the equipment was working. I do not think I ever saw one of the musicians say anything during the show. No hand signals or anything. Music? Good point. A tease for my Frightened Rabbits post.... I am telling you. These guys are awesome.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  5. Marigold says ardy. It is worth it just to see Frightened Rabbit. I should say this in regard to Pinback. I still enjoyed seeing the band. It was good. I guess if I had to rate it I would give them a 5.8 out of 10. But Frightened Rabbit was 8-9 material. If I had been familiar with their songs it could have maybe even been a 10. I thought they rocked that good after I got a grip of their sound after three songs.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  6. Augusts1 says It's amazing how you can tell when a band is not functioning at their optimum level even though you'd not seen them before. Energy is discernible, that's for sure. Like the FI track, thanks for posting it.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  7. Girlcrawl says Sounds as if you definitely broke even, so would say 'tis was a good evening. Had not heard of Frightened Rabbit, but they sound most interesting - love it when a band gives a performance their all. Will give them a listen, and who knows I may declare myself a 'Frightened Rabbit' soon. Sorry that Pinback disappointed - maybe they were experiencing a very 'off' night. Cheers.
    Permalink posted 10/18/2007
  8. FluxCapacitor says Very entertaining read, Mike. Shame that Pinback didn't produce the goods, and how honest of you to point it out even though you clearly love the band. It's a sickening thing to have to admit. Look forward to the Frightened Rabbit record review.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  9. Marigold says Augusts. Glad you like the Frightened Rabbit track. I like it as well. :) Girlcrawl. You know. One thing that me and the person I went to the show with both were thinking is that maybe Rob Crow had a cold because his voice did not really sound much like the records. Maybe it was an off night. Colin. Thanks for reading this long review. I do not think I have ever done this detailed of a review of anything in my life. Thanks to MOG, I have been inspired. I am not the best writer but I do what I can. It was tough for me to admit that I was bummed by the show. It is not common for me to come home from a concert of a band I like and be bummed by what I saw. I usually find something to latch onto that blows me away.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  10. Anna says Oww, bummer that you got disappointed. I hate it when that happens. Maybe you caught them on bad day? Frightened Rabbit, eh? I'm a psychotic one myself (avatar wise!)
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  11. Marigold says Anna. Stay tuned for my Frightened Rabbit post you little psychotic rabbit you.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  12. amber says I for one am *VERY* glad you went to the show. Humble Mike is seemingly unable to toot his own horn, but he chatted up the members of Frightened Rabbit after the show and got my name on the band guest list for the Seattle show this upcoming Tuesday. I ask you all, how very very VERY cool is that?!!! Everyone, please meet my new best friend, Mike. He rocks.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  13. SARAHROSENFIELD says Hey Marigold. Pinback did that obnoxious thank you sound clip in Philly too. I think they may just be tired from touring. When I saw them on the 5th, they said that they were beat and that they felt bad. I guess they're not Supermen like I thought they were. Whatever, I'll be a fan forever.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  14. Marigold says Amber. I hate to really take credit FR made the offer and it was so gracious of them to do so. BFF xoxo Sarah. Yeah, that very well could have been it. Maybe they were just tired. I agree though. It will not affect my love of all things Pinback.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  15. bubb says I'll have to check this Band out. Sounds Good. Thanks for the Info! Bob
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  16. Marigold says Bubb. No prob. Thanks for stopping by. I have been refreshing my emails all day looking for my MOGnotification for your weekly football pics. I ask you now! Where are they?
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  17. bubb says Oh I just posted it, 2 minutes ago! Thanks for asking, Marigold.
    Permalink posted 10/19/2007
  18. poebegone says Mike, I am bummed that you're bummed that you're bummed. I'd caught this post days ago when i got back to mogging but waited until I could pay my 100% attention to it. As with Flux, kudos to you for being honest despite the love of Pinback. This is just like the flipside of an MMJ post you once made about them slaying live, which I couldn't relate to because I thought they didn't kick as much ass non-live. Oh well, there's all kinds of music listening pleasure. (:
    Permalink posted 10/26/2007
  19. Marigold says Ilay. It is one of my "wordier" posts isnt it? I could see why you had to come back to it. :) I am still a little confused on the show. I am not sure, but I am leaning to the fact that Pinback might be more of a studio band. Their music just has so many beautiful layers it is hard for it to be translated to the live setting. But I do not know, I say TV on the Radio this spring and their sound is similar layerwise and they pretty much destroyed in concert. I dont know. I guess I am just a confused Pinback fan. :(
    Permalink posted 10/26/2007
  20. poebegone says Oh, absolutely, it is no excuse that Pinback couldn't hack their own music live, as many other bands with as much or more layered music have. (You shoegeezers would know! =p) Damn, confusing alright. You may kill me when I make my Three Mile Pilot post (in the near future) in which I will confess to being a way bigger Zach Smith than Rob Crow fan. But I love Pinback no doubt, and if they be more of a studio band, then I'll take as much as I can in a really cramped but acoustically sound cubicle. As for wordier posts (or wordier comments like this one), I am a nerd so no worries. :D
    Permalink posted 10/26/2007
  21. Marigold says yay! We are in music nerd bliss here at MOG. Take care!
    Permalink posted 10/26/2007

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