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RHCP sue Showtime over "Californication"

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...the response from the show's creator sounds like such a crock of shit, don'tcha think?Nov 19, 11:26 PM ESTRed Hot Chili Peppers Sue ShowtimeLOS ANGELES (AP) -- The Red Hot Chili Peppers on Monday sued Showtime Networks over the name of the television series "Californication," which is also the name of the band's 1999 album and a single on it.The lawsuit alleges unfair competition, dilution of the value of the name and unjust enrichment, claiming the title is "inherently distinctive, famous ... and immediately associated in the mind of the consumer" with the Red Hot Chili Peppers."Californication is the signature CD, video and song of the band's career, and for some TV show to come along and steal our identity is not right," the band's lead singer, Anthony Kiedis, said in a statement.The television series stars David Duchovny as a novelist suffering from writers' block and a mid-life crisis.The show features a character named "Dani California," which is also the title of a Red Hot Chili Peppers song released in 2006, the lawsuit noted.The suit also names the show's creator and executive producer, Tom Kapinos, and two production companies, Twilight Time Films and Aggressive Mediocrity, Inc.A call Monday to an attorney for Showtime was not immediately returned. Attempts to find a listing for Kapinos were not successful.The suit seeks a permanent injunction barring Showtime and the other defendants from using the title "Californication" for the show, damages and restitution and disgorgement of all profits derived by the defendants.In July 2007, Kapinos told reporters at a Television Critics Association press tour in Beverly Hills that he first heard the term in reference to Oregon."Apparently in the '70s there were bumper stickers that said 'Don't Californicate Oregon,' because Californians were coming up there, and I just thought it was a great, great title for this show," said Kapinos.

Comments (17)

  1. Cflatmajor says Finally! I was waiting for a response. Good on RHCP I say!
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  2. ROCKNROLLPIMP says damn i say eh ppl don't own words and ideas then again it is AMERICA lotsa folks lately hating on the peppers ACK
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  3. kat3260 says "Don’t Californicate Oregon" ? Well obviously _that's_ where the show name came from, and the character named Dani California is just a coincidence....
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  4. jameson says Well, as much as I hate what RHCP has become, they deserve to win this fight. I mean, come on, didn't ANYBODY put their hand up at that one staff meeting and be like, "Um, guys, seriously, about the name of the show....you might wanna get clearance for that...."
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  5. HelenMarie says I thought the same thing Jameson said. *Someone* must have brought it up. On the other hand I'm tired of hearing people sue over stuff like this....although this is a little blatant. But even the RHCP were getting crap over the chords of their Dani track from Tom Petty...no?
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  6. NeilNathan says thieves should not sue thieves and that's what rock artists are and always have been and the peppers know that as well as anyone californication is an incredibly well written, smart, and entertaining show, and the title is the worst thing about it, took me a while to get over it and get sucked in the chili pepper's should be proud that they supposedly made up a word that carries on outside of any song and they should go write a decent freaking record instead of worrying about this nonsense
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  7. Lyrikhan says i agree with most of you and see this suit as unnecessary, but also think Showtime was dumb not to expect this.... "Don't Californicate Oregon" just seemed like something the creator looked up on google after the controversy came up to cover himself.....but that's just my impression.
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  8. vannatta says Artists have a right to their creations, and to profit from them. Dani California is no different than a character in a screenplay, she just happens to inhabit a song's lyrics instead. Also, made up words have been copyrighted forever, until they come in to common use - like Xerox - but you still can't use it in commerce. You can't copyright a chord progression, however, only melody and lyrics - so this gives lots of bands legal leeway - thankfully. If you could have owned a chord progression then guys like Chuck Berry and Robert Johnson would own most of Tom Petty's catalog.
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  9. fistula spume says Wow. They should at least be happy that someone is keeping their brand in the popular consciousness. Maybe they just don't like the show and how it reflects upon them.
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  10. ZZTodd says i saw an ad for this show a long time ago and wondered if this was ever gonna come up
    Permalink posted 11/20/2007
  11. Jo says Oh gosh, another PR gaffe for the Red Hot Chili Peppers, I love these guys but I really think they need to fire and rehire in the legal and PR departments - sigh.

    As previously posted by me elsewhere:

    "Whether the title 'Californication' sort of 'belongs' to the Peppers? I don't know, but yes that word is VERY much associated with this band and here in the UK the series was advertised using their song.

    Saying that, the series' title is not the only reference I noticed to the band; if I remember correctly, in episode three I think it was, remember when character Hank's agent is, errrrrm, enjoying himself watching his PA's naugthy website? Remember what she calls herself on that website? I am pretty sure it was "Dani California".

    But hey, I do find the series entertaining, and as much as I could understand the band wanting to sue the TV series production company, it would have been a hell of a lot more credible if they'd done so a hell of a lot sooner (as in: before it was ever televised in the first place).

    As the band('s lawyers) left it so late, just as the show's ratings aren't quite as great as the makers had hoped, I can't help but think that this is not a genuine complaint/suit, more like an arranged/engineered publicity stunt as agreed between the show's makers and the band('s representative), knowing that the publicity it might bring, might actually boost both the TV series' ratings and RHCP album sales.

    Wanna bet this "case" never makes it into a courtroom, yet gets "settled" outside court?"


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    "Like I said before, this whole situation just reeks of "publicity stunt" to me, not necessarily initiated by the band, more likely initiated by either those working for them (management, record company, or PR people) or even initiated by the series' makers now that the viewing figures aren't as good/high as they had hoped for (if the claim had any seriousness, it would have been brought about earlier, before the show had even aired anywhere).

    Negative publicity like this benefits all parties involved. (But if I'd been their PR-advisor, I would still have advised against it, or only let it take place with a positive twist.)

    Note also that Showtime is a subsidiary of Comedy Central, with whom the band have already had business connections (like when they gave their voices to the Simpsons and to Lil' Bush).

    Besides that, do you really think the series' legal advisers never bothered to check things to prevent any lawsuits?",


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    "The show is great, I love it. And yes, the whole thing sounds lame - but like I said, I don't think it's all that serious, and probably not even initiated by the band.

    That said, I really think the band should re-consider who they are working with / who they allow to work for them, because I think they are falling victim to too many publicity gaffes. (I'd do better - and cheaper.)"


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    "If 'by association' is enough grounds for a lawsuit, then I suppose any RHCP fan could associate the show's main character 'Hank Moody' with Anthony in a way; a 40-something guy, driving a Porsche, promiscuous yet desperate for (re)commitment, whose writing contains a lot of sexual references, who is a womaniser with a preference for very young ladies.....

    The reference made by many TV networks advertising the show using the RHCP song "Californication"; but that may not have necessarily been the show's makers' doing."


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    "I already mentioned the 'Dani California' character previously, and oops, sorry, I think I may have leaked this bit of info to the press well before this case came up (when someone asked me to review it from a RHCP-fan point of view, considering they already made the association with the band before the series aired); in episode 3, there is a scene where you see Hank Moody's agent pleasuring himself while watching this website of 'naughty pictures' of his PA; on that website she calls herself Dani California. So when I was asked to write a review, I incorporated that bit of info.

    In my article I also incorporated the other associations I mentioned in this and other posts, and I might have even mentioned that if show ratings failed they could always try to stage some sort of PR-stunt involving RHCP (though I didn't mean a lawsuit!).

    Hope that didn't get anyone into trouble."


    Enough said?
    Permalink posted 11/21/2007
  12. Lyrikhan says Interesting take on the matter Jo. You've got the conspiracy theorist coming out in me now. I'll say it took this news story to make me remember this show even existed so I guess it could prompt me to watch it at some point.......then again I don't have Showtime.
    Permalink posted 11/21/2007
  13. Jo says I am not a conspiracy theorist at all, just experienced ;)
    Permalink posted 11/21/2007
  14. moovyphreak says I quite enjoyed "Californication" (the series) most of the time, although it had a rather syrupy sweet season ender after all the build-up. Also, I never once heard the character named Dani referred to as "Dani California." IMDb even lists the character simply as "Dani." Showtime renewed it for a second season in early September, so it'll be interesting to see where things go. As for RHCP, I've found it's hard to beat the greatness that was "Blood Sugar Sex Magik." I'm a fan, but have never been a big enough fan to compare and contrast all their albums. I also was one of those people who thought "Wasn't this the name of a RHCP album?" when I first read about the Showtime series earlier this year before it premiered.
    Permalink posted 11/26/2007
  15. xXxManDiixXx says I think that the the producer or w/e was obviously trying to circle around the fact that they illegally used RHCP's shit and you'd have to be dumb to believe "don't californicate oregon" or whatever excuse he had was where the show's name originated. And, I love that RHCP did something about that, because first of all, to use the name of such an AMAZING album for such a weak show is just fuckin ridiculous, and second of all, it's promoting the wrong idea of what the whole album was about. Maybe I'm just too hardcore of a chili fan, and CONGRADULATIONS ANTHONY KIEDIS!!..... and heather christie.... I hope the best for you and Everly Bear.
    Permalink posted 11/26/2007
  16. Lyrikhan says hey I used to listen to ol' 88.7 when I went to JMU :) thanks for stopping by
    Permalink posted 12/01/2007

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