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'Like' Will Tear Us Apart - British Sea Power's 'Do You Like Rock Music?'

Posted about 1 year ago
British Sea Power’s third album Do You Like Rock Music? is an album I very nearly bought just for the title. I’d heard good things about it since its release, and whereas I’d also heard good things from a few friends, I have to admit I was only vaguely aware of BSP; I’d dismissed them as just one of dozens of moody provinicial British bands, the Franz-Arctic–Editor-Kooks set. The problem is, I’m not sure I was wrong to — I’ve listened to Do You Like Rock Music? a dozen or so times over the past week and I couldn’t tell you why you should buy it over, say, Favourite Worst Nightmare or An End Has A Start. I’m not even sure I could tell you it wasn’t by either of the same bands.That’s not to say it’s not good. It’s absurdly intelligent, almost to the point of incomprehension; it’s melodic, it’s raucous and it’s a wholly enjoyable album. But I can’t help but feel they were striving for something more. Occasionally you can even tell what — a lot of Arcade Fire and Flaming Lips influences are crammed in with the lost-love and lost-lunch laments, but it almost feels like a marketing exercise. They’re already known for slightly bizarre, even eccentric live shows in small, unusual, working class venues; a brown ale Cirque Du Soleil. The addition of these influences seem designed solely to make people wonder what will happen when they inevitably show up on the summer’s rock festival circuit.Google or Wikipedia — and if the first can be a verb, why not the second? — the band and two words become prominent above all others: Joy Division. The Brighton band are compared to them almost constantly. And therein lies the problem — it’s no longer about what a band or an album or song sounds like; it’s about who they sound like. Comparing British Sea Power to Joy Division is, to many, going to mean they’re either moody as hell or they’re genre-defining geniuses. I don’t know that they’re either. In fact, on Do You Like Rock Music? they’ve made such an effort to inject soaring melodies and shouty, singalong choruses that it’s much, much easier to make the case for their being geniuses, especially given the hyper-literate lyrics and subversive nods to their peers. And you could argue for "genre-defining" in the sense that they slot in to the same category as all the other UK rock bands that NME have said are cool so perfectly that you can’t help but hold them up as a paradigm of modern rock. But they fit so perfectly that you’re in danger of thinking you’ve heard it all before.British Sea Power, on their own merits, are an excellent rock band. They know exactly where their roots are, they don’t underestimate their audience and they’re not afraid to explore their options. But it’s almost impossible to describe them without referencing other bands – predecessors or contemporaries. I can’t understand how a band that is original and unique in so many ways can be put into a box so easily – "That song sounds like the Smiths, that one like the Cure, that one like Joy Division” or “If you like Editors, you’ll like BSP;" all of which are probably true. Do You Like Rock Music? is, on its own merits, an excellent rock album and deserves to be heard by lots of people, as it surely will. Buy it, download it, put the CD on and for fifty-four minutes forget you’ve heard of Editors, or Joy Division or anyone else you’ve heard they sound like. It sounds like British Sea Power — and that’s exactly what it’s supposed to do.

Comments (8)

  1. funoka says This title is hilarious. This one of my favorite questions to ask friends who wonder why I still go to so many shows.
    Permalink posted 02/10/2008
  2. River Lethe says I don't know who's comparing BSP with Joy Division, but they don't really sound like them at all. You'd be closer looking at David Bowie's influence. The sound is more raw and punk, than the drone and melancholy of Joy Division. And as far as lumping them with those other Brit bands, well BSP precede them all by several years (this is their third full-length). They also don't sound remotely like Arctic Monkeys (who I'm sorry to say is the most over-hyped and over-rated band to come along lately until the now buzzed-about Vampire Weekend) or the Editors, who more closely resemble the Joy Division comparison. And Franz Ferdinand is moody? They're part of the revival of dance rock that happened a few years ago between them and the Killers (before they tried something different with their sound). There's no way Arcade Fire is an influence either. They may be contemporaries or even buddies, but a few similarities doesn't entail influence, especially since BSP precede that band as well. This is a well-written review, but I just don't understand the band/musical comparisons that are being made. I would suggest maybe checking out their other albums as well, and maybe some of those other bands you're thinking about when you listen will wash away.
    Permalink posted 02/20/2008
  3. John Madden says Oh, man. River, I really didn’t want to do this; I’d much rather talk about music I actually like (more on this later). But here goes. I re-read my review, re-read my sources and re-listened to the album, as well as a few of the ‘comparison’ tracks I’d downloaded. And you know what? I stand by what I said. You said that BSP preceded the peers I mentioned by at least a couple of years. That’s true – I’m not debating that point. They have not, however, on ‘Do You Like Rock Music?’ done anything to differentiate themselves this time around – and I think anyone who perceives themselves as leading the way for a genre or movement has an obligation to do just that – on every record. BSP may have come before Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Editors and the like but I don’t think that there is any denying that they are, at least from the music press’ point of view, all part of roughly the same movement in British rock – I’m avoiding the term ‘Brit-Rock’ for fear of incurring the wrath of genre purists. I do agree that Arctic Monkeys are over-rated, and about ten years too late, but I don’t agree with the exclusion of Franz Ferdinand from the category – I think that, especially on their first album, they have a lot more in common with Arctic Monkeys and BSP than with other ‘Dance Rock’ acts like LCD SoundSystem or The Killers. I make the Arcade Fire and Flaming Lips comparisons only based on reviews of their stage shows, as well as of the slightly more epic sound that they've gone for, in comparison to the previous two full length albums. Which, it must be said, is beside the point. I don’t believe that ‘Do You Like Rock Music?’ sounds like Joy Division, in fact I pointed out that they’ve made a discernable effort to avoid such comparisons this time around, and that I don’t understand why they’re making such comparisons. But if you are to look up BSP as a band on the internet, there are critics – both professional and amateur – lining up to make Joy Division comparisons. For better or for worse, accurate or not, the reviews are out there. Sigh. Maybe I should have just said that ‘Do You Like Rock Music?’ is a good, intelligent and listenable but forgettable album from a potentially great but too-clever-for-their-own-good band that sounds like fifteen others, and that I’ve had no desire to listen to it since posting this review. It's more to the point, but less fun to write.
    Permalink posted 02/20/2008
  4. River Lethe says John, I hope you don't think I was trying to be a jerk. I did, in fact, Google and Wikipedia the band, like you said, and what I found were a lot of those same comparisons. I don't think they're founded (especially the Joy Division tag), and it's unfortunate that because some guy wrote his opinion somewhere, it's now being cited as evidence across the web (never mind the dubious nature of citing opinions as fact, which, unfortunately Wikipedia and the nature of the blog-o-verse thrive on these days). I don't dispute your actual review or lack of interest of the album (I haven't spent enough time with it yet, but I do like their other stuff, particularly the first album), just the "general consensus" that pegs this band to the others mentioned. I also read comparisons to bands like the Psychedelic Furs and Echo and the Bunnymen (and like I had mentioned, Bowie), and I find these comparisons to be a bit more accurate. I guess I just disagree with most of what's been written about them (I tend to play devil's advocate), but I do appreciate your review and thought it was well-written and that you get your point across well. I'm sorry I made you revisit a topic and album you're not interested in.
    Permalink posted 02/21/2008
  5. John Madden says River, thanks for the comment, and for the clarification. I don't think you were being a jerk - I think that one of the best things about MOG (apart from a place to discover music) is its potential for sparking debate. I don't mind having to defend my opinions, I think it solidifies them and makes me a better writer (at least I'm hoping it will). You make a great point - that as soon as the Joy Division comparison was made by someone prominent enough, everyone jumped on that bandwagon. I think it's a little sad - I'm still not excited by BSP, but I feel bad that these comparisons have to be hung around their neck. Why it can't be just 'BSP, the decent guitar band' as opposed to 'BSP, the (insert seminal 80s alternative band) soundalikes' is beyond me. Apart from the debate as to whether or not the comparisons are founded, they're a better band when taken on their own merits.
    Permalink posted 02/21/2008
  6. Kinoshawk says Nice discussion. Still listening to this record. Ya'll have given me some interesting things to think about. Thanks.
    Permalink posted 02/21/2008
  7. River Lethe says "Apart from the debate as to whether or not the comparisons are founded, they're a better band when taken on their own merits." Agreed. Looking forward to more reviews.
    Permalink posted 02/25/2008
  8. John Madden says Thank you! And thank you for the intelligent debate. Hopefully will have more reviews up later this week.
    Permalink posted 02/25/2008

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