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Nothing Means Nothing Anymore! 90's Music chopped, repackaged and re-marketed!

Posted 9 months ago

The Buzz Box.

(I am guessing that the Buzz comes from the fact that a lot of these tracks were Buzz tracks on MTV in the early 90s)

I must be going though the stages of grief, first there was;

1. SHOCK & DENIAL

Really, no really, am I really seeing this. Let me back up, last night I was catching a couple of moments of the Fall of Rome (Rock of Love) on VH1 (or which ever station the devil was showing it on) and a ad comes on for this crass, de-fanged, Ran-Dumb, collection.

2. PAIN & GUILT

The first words out of my mouth to my Brother and Sister were.... Do you remember when I literally used to joke about this day. And then it hit me, my cynicism catching up with me and the knowledge that something that meant something to me, the Alt Music scene wave 1, was now just cheap nostalgia.

3. ANGER & BARGAINING

There wasn't any bargaining, but a flash of anger did settle through me when I saw that it was worse than a pair of lame comps it was this:

4. "DEPRESSION", REFLECTION, LONELINESS

Wow, really has it been that long? Did some of these tunes really resonate with me? was there something that I thought was going to change the world? Where is everyone? All those people I stood on the stairs with at Warehouse Records the night that Pearl Jam's second album came out?.... shit did I really look forward to Pearl Jam's second record (I no longer have the LP or the CD of that one, I only have my CD copy of Ten, which I haven't seriously listened to in over 10 years)...... and what is missing from these comps? why isn't some of that great stuff that got lost in the shuffle on there to be rediscovered?

5. THE UPWARD TURN

Wait what is missing? a lot of stuff, I wonder what wasn't considered for inclusion? who told the PR fucks to go fuck themselves and their tracks aren't for sale? Screaming Trees? Alice in Chains? Soundgarden? Pearl Jam? The Melvins? Temple of the Dog? Mother Love Bone? Afgan Wigs? maybe someone still has a scruples?.... and yes I wonder how many of the artists on these comes didn't have a choice, did they sign contracts that allowed the labels to license their stuff for comps like this? How many saw the chance to pay some bills and gave in?

6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH-

I recall Iggy Pop saying that his songs were not conceived commercially and if someone 20+ years later want to pay to use them, sure. I understand the way it all works, artists often make little or no money off of their sales and if these comps bring in some cash, cause some people to start looking back and wanting to see live shows by people that had an impact on them when they were young, why not. Just because I don't choose to live in the musical era that I was brought up in (my playlists tend to be time traveling, as anyone that reads my monthly playlist post on mog should know), doesn't give me the right to be snobby and tell others that there is more to life than the records that came out and were popular during their late teens and early twenties.

7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE

I am old, I am aging (Still aging as TSOOL said), there are plenty of tracks missing from this pop confection, and when I look at it in comparison with other collections of this type is that others often times include a mix of the hits and best known or recalled tracks of the era, but also the overlooked, forgotten, and odd ball bands and tracks of the era. If you look at almost any of the great Rhino box sets, (any of the Nuggets, The loud, fast, and out of Control, the Doowop boxes, Rockin' Bones, ect) you will see that in addition to the music there is great liner notes that give a history of the scene, photos and info on the bands, and other historic information about the scene and era.

There is also the hope that Rhino will get their act together and do a proper box set, more likely a couple of them. A Seattle box, a first wave of Alternative box, a Nuggets from the First Alternative era box (which I have written about before a couple of years back, and I would call it Splinters, but hey I don't get to produce the set, so what,)..... and now, next what?

Luckily for me the other scenes that I have been involved with and care about never were above ground enough to warrant the kind of nostalgia this collection is trading on....

Thoughts, comments, media-care, spare change?

(I am going to post the track list in the comments, and I hope that anyone reading this will look it over and let me know what's missing)

Comments (10)

  1. Iren says

    CD 1
    01 What I Got | Sublime
    02 What's The Frequency, Kenneth? | R.E.M.
    03 All Mixed Up | 311
    04 How's It Gonna Be | Third Eye Blind
    05 Zombie | Cranberries
    06 Inside Out | Eve 6
    07 Take A Picture | Filter
    08 Shine | Collective Soul
    09 Closing Time | Semisonic
    10 Good | Better Than Ezra
    11 Far Behind | Candlebox
    12 You Get What You Give | New Radicals
    13 What It's Like | Everlast
    14 Cumbersome | Seven Mary Three
    15 One Week | Barenaked Ladies
    16 Feed The Tree | Belly
    17 All I Want | Toad The Wet Sprocket
    18 Runaway Train | Soul Asylum

    CD 2
    01 Lightning Crashes | Live
    02 Champagne Supernova | Oasis
    03 If You Could Only See | Tonic
    04 Glycerine | Bush
    05 Doll Parts | Hole
    06 Santeria | Sublime
    07 Hemorrhage (In My Hands) | Fuel
    08 A Long December | Counting Crows
    09 Counting Blue Cars | Dishwalla
    10 Linger | Cranberries
    11 Hanging By A Moment | Lifehouse
    12 Runaway Train | Soul Asylum
    13 Til I Hear It From You | Gin Blossoms
    14 Here's To The Night | Eve 6
    15 What Do I Have To Do? | Stabbing Westward
    16 Out Of My Head | Fastball

    CD 3
    01 It's Been Awhile | Staind
    02 Jumper | Third Eye Blind
    03 Wasting My Time | Default
    04 Everything You Want | Vertical Horizon
    05 Sex And Candy | Marcy Playground
    06 Far Behind | Candlebox
    07 The Freshman | The Verve Pipe
    08 Take A Picture | Filter
    09 What It's Like | Everlast
    10 Something's Always Wrong | Toad The Wet Sprocket
    11 World I Know | Collective Soul
    12 Desperately Wanting | Better Than Ezra
    13 Angry Johnny | Poe
    14 Save Me | Remy Zero
    15 Easy | Faith No More
    16 Smells Like Teen Spirit | Tori Amos

    CD 4
    01 You Get What You Give | New Radicals
    02 Can't Get Enough Of You Baby | Smash Mouth
    03 Breakfast At Tiffany's | Deep Blue Something
    04 Hey Leonardo (She Likes Me For Me) | Blessid Union Of Souls
    05 Celebrity Skin | Hole
    06 Steal My Sunshine | Len
    07 Follow You Down | Gin Blossoms
    08 Out Of My Heart | BBMak
    09 The Bad Touch | Bloodhound Gang
    10 Naked Eye | Lucious Jackson
    11 All For You | Sister Hazel
    12 Follow You Down | Gin Blossoms
    13 White Town | Your Woman
    14 Mouth | Merril Bainbridge
    15 Do Right | Jimmie's Chicken Shack
    16 Standing Outside A Broken Phone Booth | Primitive Radio Gods

    CD 5
    01 Live Forever | Oasis
    02 Song 2 | Blur
    03 Down | 311
    04 Tomorrow | Silverchair
    05 The Distance | Cake
    06 Clumsy | Our Lady Peace
    07 Fall Down | Toad The Wet Sprocket
    08 Shimmer | Fuel
    09 Peaches | The Presidents Of The United States Of America
    10 Not An Addict | K's Choice
    11 Misery | Soul Asylum
    12 Two Princes | Spin Doctors
    13 Pepper | Butthole Surfers
    14 You | Candlebox
    16 Molly (16 Candles) | Sponge
    17 Feed The Tree | Belly

    CD 6
    01 Kryptonite | Three Doors Down
    02 Fat Lip | Sum 41
    03 I Miss You | Blink 182
    04 Blurry | Puddle Of Mud
    05 I'd Do Anything | Simple Plan
    06 Celebrity Skin | Hole
    07 Sour Girl | Stone Temple Pilots
    08 Last Resort | Papa Roach
    09 Running Away | Hoobastank
    10 Hangingaround | Counting Crows
    11 Lakini's Juice | Live
    12 Hanging By A Moment | Lifehouse
    13 The Way | Fastball
    14 What It Is To Born | Finch
    15 The Chemicals Between Us | Bush
    16 Smooth Criminal | Alien Ant Farm

    CD 7
    01 Higher | Creed
    02 Meant To Live | Switch
    03 Butterfly | Crazytown
    04 Hemorrhage (In My Hands) | Fuel
    05 My Own Worst Enemy | Lit
    06 I Will Buy You A New Life | Everclear
    07 Amber | 311
    08 Somewhere Out There | Our Lady Peace
    09 Bodies | Drowning Pool
    10 I Hate Everything About You | Three Days Grace
    11 Inside Out | Eve 6
    12 Send The Pain Below | Chevelle
    13 Wherever You Will Go | The Calling
    14 Fly | Sugar Ray f/ Supercat

    CD 8
    01 My Own Worst Enemy | Lit
    02 Flavor Of The Week | American Hi-Fi
    03 Walking On The Sun | Smash Mouth
    04 Hanging By A Moment | Lifehouse
    05 The Way | Fastball
    06 Running Away | Hoobastank
    07 Down | 311
    08 Absolutely (Story Of A Girl) | Nine Days
    09 The Impression That I Get | The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
    10 Flagpole Sitter | Harvey Danger
    11 Touch, Peel, And Stand | Days Of The New
    12 I Alone | Live
    13 More Human Than Human | White Zombie
    14 Sell Out | Reel Big Fish
    15 Teenage Dirtbag | Wheatus
    16 Girl All The Bad Guys Want | Bowling For Soup
    17 Backpack | Stroke 9
    18 Tomorrow | Silverchair

    CD 9
    01 Slide | Goo Goo Dolls
    02 Every Morning | Sugar Ray
    03 Hey Man Nice Shot | Filter
    04 I'd Do Anything | Simple Plan
    05 Popular | Nada Surf
    06 December | Collective Soul
    07 Desperately Wanting | Better Than Ezra
    08 She Don't Use Jelly | The Flaming Lips
    09 Into Your Arms | Lemonheads
    10 In The Meantime | Spacehog
    11 Pretend That We're Dead | L7
    12 Here & Now | Letters To Cleo

    CD 10
    01 Mr. Jones | Counting Crows
    02 Hey Jealousy | Gin Blossoms
    03 Sex And Candy | Marcy Playground
    04 Breakfast At Tiffany's | Deep Blue Something
    05 Runaway Train | Soul Asylum
    06 All I Want | Toad The Wet Sprocket
    07 Little Miss Can't Be Wrong | Spin Doctors
    08 Brick | Ben Folds Five
    09 Everything Falls Apart | Dog's Eye View
    10 Lump | The Presidents Of The United States Of America
    11 The Freshman | Verve Pipe
    12 No Rain | Blind Melon
    13 Pets | Porno For Pyros
    14 Pepper | Butthole Surfers
    15 Steal My Sunshine | Len
    16 Fade Into You | Mazzy Star
    17 Mother Mother | Tracy Bonham
    18 Save Tonight | Eagle Eye Cherry

    Permalink posted 03/23/2009
  2. Rawkkiddoh says

    hahahahaha.......and how many of these songs do you know by heart. DONT LIE IREN!

    Permalink posted 03/23/2009
  3. Iren says

    I don't think that I could sing any of them, I can say that there are songs on here that I like, and songs that I even have, thinking about this whole thing further it's the lack of a context for these all to be tied together.... also there is a lot of songs from the time missing from this set........ so Kevin, how many of them can you sing?

    Permalink posted 03/23/2009
  4. Rawkkiddoh says

    I agree about them being tied together in a random fashion. As for me being able to sing, well I know quite a few of them rather well. Lets see, I would say about 50 or so, but if I ever hear that god awful butterfly song ever again there will be a public shooting

    Permalink posted 03/23/2009
  5. skennedy33 says

    I like the fact that so many songs are repeated disc after disc.  Marketing genius you are.

    Permalink posted 03/24/2009
  6. scottsalsman says

    Wow, great post. I loved it. However, I wouldn't consider ANY of these songs as being from the "first wave of alternative". In fact, by the time most of these tracks came along, the term "alternative" was already losing its meaning very quickly. I know; I was there. In fact, I would call the majority of these tracks the LAST wave of "alternative", and anyone using that term for music coming out today is just clueless.

    Permalink posted 03/24/2009
  7. Iren says

    scottsalsman:  I break down the chronology thusly.

    College Rock (which I see as proto- alternative) 1985-1990

    This would be your Replacements, REM, and U2s.

     

    First Wave of Alternative 1991 – 1996

    This was the era where a lot of labels were looking for anything that might sell, and that’s how stuff like:

    Flaming Lips, The Butthole Surfers, and King Missile (who is missing from this collection) and a handful of outsider weirdoes ended up on the radio.

     

    Second Wave 1996 to present (and I’ll concede that there are a lot of tracks from this period are on the set).

    For me this is the era where bands were out and out aping the bands of the first wave, Days of the New, Creed, and their ilk trying to sound like Pearl Jam or Alice in Chains, Goldfinger changing from a near hair metal hard rock called The Electric Love Hogs into their better known Ska Core group. This is also the era where it felt like the con men running the music industry figured out how to wring the last drops of blood from the Alternative Stone, before moving on to selling hyper pop to teenagers and abandoning the Gen X masses as consumers.  

     

    My main points of reference are things like Nevermind entering the mainstream charts as the start of first wave of alternative, I also strongly would make the case that the Screaming Trees album Dust was the last album of the first wave of alternative.

    as for songs that I would consider part of the first wave of Alt Rock: how about (for better or worse):


    Far Behind | Candlebox
    Cumbersome | Seven Mary Three
    Feed The Tree | Belly
    Runaway Train | Soul Asylum
    Linger | Cranberries
    Til I Hear It From You | Gin Blossoms
    Far Behind | Candlebox
    The Freshman | The Verve Pipe
    Easy | Faith No More
    Smells Like Teen Spirit | Tori Amos
    Follow You Down | Gin Blossoms
    Two Princes | Spin Doctors
    You | Candlebox
    Molly (16 Candles) | Sponge
    The Impression That I Get | The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
    I Alone | Live
    More Human Than Human | White Zombie
    Tomorrow | Silverchair
    Hey Man Nice Shot | Filter
    She Don't Use Jelly | The Flaming Lips
    Into Your Arms | Lemonheads
    Pretend That We're Dead | L7
    Here & Now | Letters To Cleo
    Hey Jealousy | Gin Blossoms
    Little Miss Can't Be Wrong | Spin Doctors
    Pets | Porno For Pyros
    Fade Into You | Mazzy Star

    Permalink posted 03/24/2009
  8. scottsalsman says

    Well, I suppose it's all in how you look at it, but I, for one, compleeeeeeeeetely disagree with you. Still, I enjoyed your post very much. :)

    Permalink posted 03/24/2009
  9. Iren says

    That's fine, what would you consider the first wave of Alt music? What tracks would you include on a box set of those?

    Permalink posted 03/24/2009
  10. Iren says

    By the way, anyone that wants to read my thoughts on a 90s box set it's posted HERE

    Permalink posted 03/24/2009

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