Can Someone Tell Me Why Nobody Has Hit This Tune For A Post ....
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I mean come on people. We have a lot of music to catalog, display, and make known.
You guys ain't helping by sitting on your hands.
When you signed on to be the 'Steward of the Tunes" that is exactly what it meant. You will shepperd the music, period.
Relax, that ain't an order. Just a strong suggestion.
Dig Fleetwood Mac.
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Well, for me it's because I don't have any Fleetwood Mac. Hope this isn't a deal breaker, but I don't really even care for them too much--with the exception of "The Chain." That song rocks.
oh... its the generation crack
i liked the peter green line up of fleetwood mac best of all.
don't much care for the pop line up with buckingham & nicks... sorry.
i think the ONLY track i like from the buckingham/nicks line up was a christine mcvie song anyway (over my head)
now - what i mean about generation crack.
1979... why listen to pop music when there was punk rock? and if you were gonna go pop, there was BLONDIE!
finally the big turn off --- there was just too much offstage drama in fleetwood mac that distracted from their musicality, sorry. i'm a really tough sell.
All right! The mighty "Tusk." I don't give a rat's ass about any band's inner drama. It's all about what's in the grooves, as we used to say. With that in mind, I loved Peter Green's version of F.M. ("The Green Manalishi" and "Oh Well" slayed me) and Jeremy Spencer's after-P.G. stewardship (all of Kiln House, for instance), but I think that Lindsey Buckingham's tenure as the band's de facto music director was abso-brill. And, though I still extoll the virtues of punk and new-wave at their best, I'm glad I rediscovered Buckingham's pure Mac pop. (I also enjoy his solo recordings as much if not more than the Mac attacks.)
I always feel like I have to be loaded to the point of being mental to truly enjoy this....
I was holding back for you, and this is the thanks I get? Sheesh!
Bill, 8 o'clock is right around the corner. If you haven't been drinking for 45 mins. now you will never get to that mental state we all know and love.
Dale, Thanks for taking a hit for the team.
Mike, we are cut from the same gauze that draped Stevie's once slender frame. Buckingham rules.
anna, when making cookies, you got to break some eggs. Older Fleetwood baffled me. It's my generation that was exposed to this line up. Mind you I don't listen to Mac often but when I do It's usually from this era.
I won't steer you wrong Chuck.
its all a matter of taste.
honestly... i was holding back. the buckingham nicks line up of fleetwood mac absolutely destroyed and ruined the very thing i liked about fleetwood mac... that they were an old school english blues band softened on occasion by the silky, airy and clear voice of the legendary christine perfect.
the line up of fleetwood mac with buckingham & nicks should have been called something else. the brand name "fleetwood mac" has been sullied.
i'm sure everyone disagrees with me - and likely even if we asked them, mick fleetwood and john mcvie would as well - considereing that buckingham & nicks were the members whose music made the band blow up bigger than ever....
but its plainly and simply anathema to my ears and i feel like buckingham & nicks hijacked fleetwood mac from the band i knew.
i recall vividly the first time i saw them play with that line up - at the end of the summer of 1975, they were one of the bands that opened for the faces at anaheim stadium (where the CA Angels play) on a tour that ended up being the final faces tour.
that seemed like a good bill - two brands of british rock n blues - the heavy part and the fun loving part.
but that was not to be. imagine what a SHOCK it was for me to see stevie nicks doing that weirdo faux witch hippie thing and musically, most of what i liked about the band was gone. lindsay buckingham did fine on playing and singing the trademark peter green and jeremy spencer AND bob welch tunes however.... that horrifying gothic stevie nicks performance stood in glaring contrast to the otherwise straight up musicality of the band.
the original band members - fleetwood and john mcvie lay a solid foundation for any front line, and the addition of christine mcvie, when it happened lightened up the boys club factor just enough
the previous guitar players / singers / front line members of fleetwood mac really fit in to the team. buckingham and nicks stood apart. it sounds like for you all, they stood apart in a good way. for me, they are the equivalent of putting tomato ketchup on a filet mignon.
buckingham's solo records are just fine... for lindsay buckingham. he's NOT fleetwood mac. he's lindsay buckingham. i can't say the same for stevie nicks. she's like the scarlett ohara of pop music for me - right down to he curtains she ripped down to fashion a frock for herself to the self indulgent narcissistic performance. finally - her songs and especially her voice.... just do NOTHING for my ears. NOTHING. well, that's wrong... i run away screaming....
It seems wrong to talk about the old Fleetwood Mac without mentioning the late, intermittently great Danny Kirwan....
love the dramz! this is what I miss about this place sometimes!
While I'll probably be flamed for this, I love the album "Rumors'. Ok, I said it. I do.
when you say "late" Danny Kirwan, are you saying he's dead? i thought he was just living in a homeless shelter in London for years & years... cuckoo as a clock...
yes... Kirwan was damn talented and brought some fantastic guitar playing into that band.
as for "Rumours," in my world, that's the camel that broke my straw back. i got other reasons for hating it, but it has as much to do with my career as it does what i consider the absolute self-indulgent bloatedness of that record and the understanding that "Rumours" is the album that got so many people turned on to Fleetwood Mac when so many previous albums should have....
My reasons for liking it are out of perspective. It was played throughout my childhood.
Their early material is fantastic. I have a bootleg of them playing at the Fillmore West in early 70 I think, with peter green.
I guess my problem is (and it really is a problem) that I find it hard to listen objectively to music I was pounded over the head with when I was a youth...I automatically come in with a predtermined notion that Mac from this period is to be disliked as a symbol of the excesses of the 70's record biz..
At this point, with a little distance, I can see the music for what it is, highly crafted, well done pop,but there's still a bit of a taint and I feel like I've heard it way too much. I only wish that the music I like now could somehow get enough listens from me to displace all the music of the 70's and 80's that I listened to before I knew I had options.
I could swear that I read his obit a couple of years ago. But in searching him I don't see anything that would indicate his death. Either I am totally hallucinating or a British newspaper jumped the gun. I suspect the former, and apologize profusely.....
But yeah, he was a great songwriter as well as guitarist....
I didnt even hear all of "Rumours" until 1983 ..it became such an object of derision in the face of the flame and fury of Punk.. Rumours was characterized (not entirely fairly,Jameson) as all that was lame and stagnent,inexplicably top of the charts for week after week despite the seemingly earth shattering developments of the New York and London Punk scene! it just shows you how your young world is coloured by music
I am .Through the late seventies i was firmly in the Anna Log camp..Dolls,Pistols ,Television, Jam and Clash...Years later i had to admit that "Rumours" was okay as a pop album. Am i right in thinking that Bill Clinton's campaign put it back on the top of the charts?
"Tusk" went way below the radar..it sounded like their answer to "Adam and the Ants" or "Bow Wow Wow"or something i dunno,( Burundi drumming and all that)..and i get this image of Lindsay Buckingham trying to look like Gary Numan?!
Either I am totally hallucinating
Right there Bill proof positive you need to start drinking earlier in the day.
anna, don't sugar coat it. Tell us how you feel. Be honest. Jameson and I are coming from the same play. You have a few years on us so you have a different perspective. Honestly I get the same way when 'kids' talk about Sonic Youth and the album 'Goo'. Like they have know idea what came before that piece of mediocre shite. I totally know where your coming from.
jameson, we are on the same page.
Cody B. that's how I feel about 'Yes'. I was bludgeoned by the band.
chris, your a uniter. Tusk is way way below the radar, but I don't think it was a reaction to anything. I honestly think it was some studio fun. I played the shit out of this album when I was 12-13.
yeah - the Clinton/Gore campaign brought new life into "Don't Stop" since they used it as their theme song and it became the de facto anthem for baby boomers everywhere. since i fall into that category, being born in the year of the greatest number of baby boomer births, i really really hate that the nation believed the "don't stop" message spoke for me.
if i were to pick an anthem from amongst 70s songs to represent my point of view, i'd sooner pick the Eagle's "Already Gone" (if i had to choose American)... but the Sex Pistols, the Clash and The Jam were saying it for me - "Anarchy in the UK," "Death or Glory" or "Clampdown" and "In The City" were telling it like it was.... for hope and uplift....i'd even take the Bee Gees "Stayin Alive"
"tusk" i don't think was a response to the primitive drum sounds from adam and the ants and/or bow wow wow - i think it was actually influenced by them. and "tusk" was hardly under the radar --- that track was a top 10 single! its the USC marching band playing with the band, and even appear with them in a music video for the song
like all real artisans, lindsay buckingham was not blind or deaf to what was going on around his platinum base... kudos to him for experimenting. it still doesn't mean i have to like it....
Anna, you've turned us onto a very cool sideroad here: The Song That Sums Up The Seventies For Me. In my case, it's probably something off the first Elvis Costello album - "I'm Not Angry" is close enough. Anyone else care to chime in?
Interesting, ivy. I'd say "Street Life" by Roxy Music or "Complete Control" by the Clash.
As for the Mac debate, I should add that there are times when Stevie's self-indulgent sorceress stuff and Christine's bland M.O.R. pop side (she, Mick and John were complicit in bring the band into the Buckingham-Nicks era) could not be redeemed by Lindsey's studio craft, or his virtuouso playing and that of the rhythm section. And I was initially put off by the fact that they retained the name. But I was dazzled by most anything that Buckingham did after he joined - and that continues through the band's later stuff and his solo recordings.
Fleetwood Mac... Severely mixed feelings. I own none, will probably never own any. They have their bright spots, this song being one of them. I like the odd ambience to the song, all the background noise always attracted me. And yes, I'm attracted to background noise.
Well, look who hit the big time? :-) It's about time. That's all I have to say.