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Home Taping: The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age of the Understatement

Posted about 1 year ago
I discuss the collaboration between Arctic Monkey's frontman Alex Turner and Rascals songwriter Miles Kane with non-Mogger, the Girlfriend (a.k.a Jill).The GF: These songs really wants to make you want to jiggle your body and dance around. It’s sad though, if I like something, I can’t be jokey about it. I can’t slag it.Me: Okay, I’ll slag it.The GF: No, don’t!Me: This is the 21st Century…The GF: Don’t!Me: ….why this pastiche stuff?The GF: Stop! Shut it!Me: Oh dear, we’ve hit a nerve with this album!The GF: I like that kind of music!Me: Pastichey stuff?The GF: Stop! I think these songs are amazing, a fantastic album.Me: Yeah, but it’s the whole English thing of lets bring the 60s back. Amy Winehouse, Duffy… It’s been done.The GF: Aaaah, sharrruuup!Me: The Brits are obsessed with the 60s. Michael Caine films. “You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!” on and on forever. Noel Gallagher’s whole career is built on the 60s. And now [Alex] Turner’s going back to the 60s! Nicking music off Scott Walker!The GF: He’s not nicking it!Me: What’s he doing, then?The GF: He’s reinventing!Me: Oh, he’s reinventing, is he? Noel Gallagher nicks it, and Turner reinvents it. The GF: Yeah! He does! Because he’s a fantastic musician and lyricist who doesn’t have to nick stuff from anyone. He’s just writing in that genre. Okay? Him and his little friend there.Me: Miles.The GF: Miles Kane. I’ve had this album for about a week, and I’ve listened to it probably a hundred times. Me: So you’re biased.The GF: I’m biased. I have to say it’s an outstanding album.Me: He’s a bit of a show off, isn’t he? This and another Arctics one on the way. Doing three albums in one year.The GF: Secretly, I think he wrote them when he was younger, and is just bringing them out now.Me: So he’s a boy genius, as well?The GF: Yeah.Me: What’s he roping the other fella in for? Kane.The GF: He helps people along the way. Me: He did the album up himself and stuck Kane’s name on it. The GF: Yeah. Me: Okay. What’s it all about, this album? How can you take it seriously?The GF: What do you mean, take it seriously? It’s a beautiful album!Me: Art is supposed to prepare you for death, in the words of [film director] Andrei Tarkovsky. Does this album prepare you for death?The GF: It does!Me: How?The GF: I’d like to listen to that before I pop my lid!Me: A lot of people have, I’d say. Listened to that and popped off. I don’t know what he’s on about. The GF: Because maybe you’re not listening to him.Me: I get that he’s not writing about everyday life in Sheffield anymore, and I get that he’s very good with words, but I don’t know what the fuck he’s talking about. In any of the songs. Tell me, in your own words, what the fuck he’s singing about there [in My Mistakes Were Made For You]?The GF: He made mistakes. But at the end of the day they were for her. For the love of her. Me: What? Hold on! I come into the house, I go, “Sorry, love, I lost ten thousand euros on a horse but I, ehm, I did it to buy you a ring…so I lost it for you."The GF: It’s not the same!Me: What would you say to me?The GF: Pack your bags.Me: “Pack your bags.” Exactly. Turner comes in, and says my mistakes are made for you, and knickers are flying off, legs are going up into the air. And Miles is in the background watching. The GF: You, as a man, don’t understand women! And he does!Me: That’s the crucial point I’m missing? That’s why he’s so successful? Alex understands women, and the rest of us don’t?The GF: Yeah.Me: Another fucking reason to hate him. But how does he understand women? He’s a child!The GF: Because he’s sensitive. Like, in the Arctic Monkey’s song Despair In the Departure Lounge, he’s singing about going off on tour, and he's with his band, and he should be all excited, but he’s pining for this girl he’s in love with. And I don’t really think men think about those things.Me: So, a bloke heading off on tour is thinking about the person he’s leaving behind, rather than all the women he could be shagging on tour.The GF: Yeah.Me: That is unusual. Where are other males going wrong?The GF: I think they’re too egotistical and they’re thinking of themselves. Me: Okay, I think I understand now. I understand women.The GF: You do in your arse!

Comments (29)

  1. Anna says I like your girlfriend more than you...
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  2. contrabandwidth says Oh how I love these reviews. I’d like to listen to that before I pop my lid! It's quotes like these that make me want to squeeze you two til you pop. And I mean that in a good way, like when a kittens so cute you want to hug it to death. And no. I'm not a sociopath...
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  3. TylerDurden says “Pack your bags.” Exactly. Turner comes in, and says my mistakes are made for you, and knickers are flying off, legs are going up into the air. And Miles is in the background watching." that's the funniest damn thing I've heard all day, brilliant... Colin -> fantastic, the roles have reversed, you're dogging the guys, and Jill's defending them...I guess we really don't understand women then... great post bro!
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  4. Bartleby says "The Brits are obsessed with the 60s. Michael Caine films. “You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!” on and on forever. Noel Gallagher’s whole career is built on the 60s. And now [Alex] Turner’s going back to the 60s! Nicking music off Scott Walker!" At long last, someone dares break the bleeding idiotic consensus about The Last Shadow Puppets. You know what GF says about Turner writing his album before even meeting with Kane, I think most of the critics wrote their sickening arse-licking reviews before the album was out. That's the only explanation possible for all the high praises. I for one would rather listen to Scott Walker than see "Turner comes in, and says my mistakes are made for you, and knickers are flying off, legs are going up into the air. And Miles is in the background watching." You two are too good for MOG. Thank you for this moment of truth. PS: Welcome back -- click right this way for the real shadow puppets.
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  5. FluxCapacitor says @ Anna - Jesus, that doesn't say much for the girl! @ Joe - Ha! Good to make a fellow joker laugh! @ Michael - Touching nerves all over the place with this one! Have to admit I was playing a touch of Devil's Advocate with my Alex-baiting, but the constant returning to the 60s for inspiration is maddening...and as you say, not pointed out strongly enough in reviews. And thanks for the link! @ CBW - Aw, right backatcha, man!
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  6. madrid spacestation spain says this review has me in stiches at pretty much every point, are you and your GF always this funny? hahaha, Miles likes to just watch....indeed!
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  7. Michael Goldberg says Great review. You two are the best!!
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  8. Augusts1 says Not you two AGAIN? Are we going to have to separate you two & get Jill her own account? @=P I think your girlfriend would look better on the dance floor! hehe But seriously, good job once again.
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  9. Mike the Knife says Another adorably puckish "review" from you and yours, Fluxie. These have been a real treat. I await the next. (Certainly, no one's gonna change my mind about TLSP - I've already embraced this album a bit more than the Monkeys' first. But digging the back and forth.)
    Permalink posted 06/05/2008
  10. FluxCapacitor says @ Madrid - Cheers! "Miles Kane", it's such a rakish name, isn't it? He should grow a little moustache to twirl. Stands to reason the chap likes to watch. @ Michael - Ta! We try. Actually, we don't. We just fight... @ A1 - "I think your girlfriend would look better on the dance floor!" So does she, and she never stops reminding me of it...you're opening old wounds there! @ Mike - "Review" is right! Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying my pain...
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  11. TylerDurden says Ah -> something I forgot on my first go-round -> thank you so much for putting down the Oasis boner...I am glad to see somebody else dislikes them...alright, that's an understatment, I friggin hate the bastards! Oh it feels good to get stuff like that off my chest!
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  12. Anna says Michael (Bartleby), with all do respect, I think that circumstances had you overexposed to this album's reviews and hype, that's the only way I can explain your intense response here (I'm not talking about the fact that you don't like 'em; obviously, we can't all like the same things). I didn't read a single one, and I was a blank canvas when I got the album. {if you think that the fact that I like Turner is what makes me like his music, I have to inform you that it works the other way. The fact that I like his music is what makes me like him} Almost all the music we listen to has been done before. If that is a criterion, we shouldn't be listening to anything.
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
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  14. Anna says You're next, Colin. {but seriously, sorry if that came harsh, I really didn't mean to! I respect you guys & your opinions, regardless of the fact that I might have to kill you for them}
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
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  16. TylerDurden says ouch...wait a minute...you called me gay you dodgy chancer...I'm on the next flight to Ireland...ok, maybe not, but I'm at the shore calling you names across the ocean, and if you catch a wiff of anything, my fart was carried across the Atlantic...and I'm chucking stones too... As I lead the angry pitch-fork carrying, torch weilding mob across the sea. bastard -> haha Mucho Love mate :)
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  17. Cody B says Great...again. "Me: So, a bloke heading off on tour is thinking about the person he’s leaving behind, rather than all the women he could be shagging on tour." Doesn't the GF realize that he has those feelings in the lounge (guilt) because he knows he's going to shag on the road. Its his job. He has to keep up his 60's and rock star cred. Was Scott Walker that great to begin with? (I'm prepared to be schooled) I guess I may have to listen to the album now, but I don't think it has a chance after this.
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  18. FluxCapacitor says No problemo, big guy ;)
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  19. FluxCapacitor says @ Cody - Thanks for reading. I honestly have to say I actually learned something from this review! The GF made me think. I don't know what Alex gets up to on the road, but going on the evidence of "505" and "Despair...", he certainly spends a lot of time thinking about the women he's left behind. And "Do Me A Favor" dealt with his narrator's infidelity from a woman's pov ("Break my nose...") Male writers generally don't consider these angles. The GF helped me to understand his appeal in that regard. For this album, although I think he's a major talent, the 60s Bond style music and abstract lyrics didn't hold my interest after a few listens. Besides, I'm still listening to the Arctic's second album. And yeah, I'm not a Scott Walker fan either...so that doesn't help!
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  20. HelenMarie says Hahaha! This is very entertaining. I need to grab the album and make an opinion for myself. I trust both of you (or all of you here), so I'm torn. ; )
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  21. Marigold says good stuff you two. this format for a review has me rolling every time. thanks.
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  22. scotfree says Well ya know Fluxy, it's all been said up there, but it's not often that the printed word makes me laugh aloud. These duets with GF-Jill have had that effect more than once. Thanks and don't stop.
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  23. FluxCapacitor says @ H - Yeah, grab it and see what you think. There's no photos of men on the cover so you should be able to concentrate on the music. ;) Let me know what you think. @ The Red Button - Thanks, it's our very own weekly MOG meet-up! @ Scott - Thanks for the very kind words. Personally, they leave me weeping aloud.
    Permalink posted 06/06/2008
  24. 1234chainsaw says Another brilliant duet, Colin & Jill! I also think the record is more a pastiche piece than anything else -- but I do think it's a rather enjoyable one, as I'm a sucker for the spaghetti-western guitar twang. It's not as the good as the second AM record, but better than their first, if you'll allow cross-genre comparisons like that.
    Permalink posted 06/07/2008
  25. Neill says Class Act as Usual. Surprised one of the monthly mags haven't come in with a offer... LOL!
    Permalink posted 06/07/2008
  26. ZZTodd says i was cracking up the whole time while reading this. great review.
    Permalink posted 06/07/2008
  27. FluxCapacitor says @ Pekka - Yep, I agree it's enjoyable enough and very accomplished musically. But I wanted more from the lyrics - afterall, this is a Miles Kane project! Thanks for reading. @ Neill - Cheers! We're holding out for Reader's Wives! @ ZZ - Thanks v much for saying, it amazes me that somebody as far away as Texas would find this stuff funny. Nonsense travels, I guess!
    Permalink posted 06/09/2008
  28. poebegone says Colin, this isn't the first time it's happened that: by the end of the review, i've forgotten all about the song - it is no longer important, and i'm worshipping the review. what that means is you bloody suck at reviewing and are bloody brilliant at writing. ;p ...and unforgivably talented for being able to mix both quite successfully. favorites: Me: What’s he roping the other fella in for? Kane. The GF: He helps people along the way. and Does this album prepare you for death? oh, did i say you suck at reviewing? that'd be because i love Arctic Monkeys (although i've never listened to TLSP before today) so, yeah, that's an incredibly biased accusation of suckage from me. ;D
    Permalink posted 06/09/2008
  29. FluxCapacitor says @ Ilay - Thanks for that fantastic comment. I have to agree that I'm not much of a reviewer - smart arse remarks are more my line! Although, despite my Alex-slagging, I do love the Arctics. I'm hoping they'll keep up the good work and be the 21st Century Beatles. With The Rascals as our Stones!
    Permalink posted 06/11/2008

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