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Sit back, relax, and listen to Buddy Rich go apeshit

Posted about 1 year ago
_“You put that fuckin' mouthpiece into that bell again, I'm gonna take your fuckin' horn and break it across my knee!”_Big band leader Buddy Rich was regarded as one of the greatest drummers of all time. He also kicked his band's ass whenever the mood took him. And by all accounts, it took him regularly.I first heard of Buddy Rich through the Seinfeld DVDs. A misty-eyed Jerry Seinfeld spends an interview segment waxing lyrical about secret recordings of Buddy Rich berating his band being passed around from stand-up to stand-up on the road in the 70s and 80s. And now it's reached this comedian.It doesn't seem right that I should review the bootleg, exactly. Afterall it's just a poor recording of a guy going apeshit. But, being a comedy obsessive, I can't help marvelling at the musicality of Rich’s put-downs. He fairly beats out his sentences, starting quietly and building to big crescendo (“I ought to give each one of you motherfuckers a cut in salary!”) He was also startlingly quick-witted, as in:_Buddy_: What kinda setting do you got on the bass tonight?_Bass Player_: Setting?_Buddy_: I feel that's fairly much English.Rich does something else that I've always found highly amusing whenever I've been lucky enough to witness it: he gets so upset that he offers the whole place out for a fight. “If you don't enjoy it here, fuck you! And get off my band. Or we can find other ways to settle it.” Did Rich abuse his position by behaving like a tyrant? Perhaps. I’ve no truck with bullies yet I did wonder what makes him rage in such an explosive way. Dude had a temper, no doubt. But the underlying conflict seems generational. An old pro whaling on cocky young bucks, “I'm not accustomed to working with half-assed fuckin' kids who think they wrote the fuckin' music business." After further listens, I reckon Rich's big problem was with fakers. Soulless people, or more precisely, people who take no pride in their work, who phone it in, who let others pick up their slack. As Rich puts it, "You jived me for the last fuckin' time." I can also imagine that the old firebrand feared losing his own edge, and was in some way berating himself.Whatever the reasons, such is Buddy's style and skill with a zinger, I wouldn’t have minded being on the receving end of one of his Biblical rages._“All I hear is noise. If you get any fuckin' closer you'll electrocute yourselves. What do you think I got a man with a sound system out there for? Sit down and play some fuckin' music! You afraid you won't be heard, is that it? I'll turn the motherfucker off all of you, then see what kind of a band you got up there, without all the assistance. You can't play shit!"_Okay, maybe not.......- I was reminded of Buddy Rich by "this recent post by Bartleby":http://mog.com/Bartleby/blog_post/126557.- You can read the transcripts of all three tapes on "this site.":http://www.cis.rit.edu/~ejipci/buddy_rich2.htm - Unfortunately, I’ve only been able to track down an MP3 of the first tape. If anybody out there has the other two, and could pass them my way, you'd make an old comedy nut very happy just in time for Christmas. UPDATE: 18/12/07A certain Mr. Young People With Faces has contacted me to pass on the three remaining Buddy Rich Tapes, plus a link to the full transcripts: http://www.musketeers.org/thud/buddy/buddy.htm. Thanks very much, mate!

Comments (27)

  1. madrid spacestation spain says i would argue that buddy rich is the greatest drummer i've heard. guy could whip up anything, at any speed. and his reputation for ripping on his musicians is legendary. but, i think he's allowed it, i mean, he was so good, it probably did piss him off to play with people that maybe couldn't push themselves as hard as he did. my old drum sensei told me this story of buddy at a drum-off with some big names. the guy before him, who i don't remember his name, did this very admirable solo. when he was done, buddy came out to do his solo. he sits down, and plays the previous drummer's solo over, for the most part verbatim, but only using one stick, and pretending to fix his kick pedal while he is doing it. it could be hearsay, or a myth, but it sounds like the kind of legend that buddy was none for.
    Permalink posted 12/14/2007
  2. FluxCapacitor says Ha, great story! Looks like the guy enjoyed handing out lessons. And yeah, it could be hearsay, but in this case I say print the legend. It fits with Rich's larger than life personality. "it probably did piss him off to play with people that maybe couldn't push themselves as hard as he did." Good point. I wonder how many other artists suffer from this, and in turn make their bandmates suffer...
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  3. Marigold says Great post and insight to Buddy Rich. I have never heard of these before. A very interesting listen that is for sure. I will listen to this again when I am at home so I can play it a little louder. Thanks Colin.
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  4. HelenMarie says I was really looking forward to sitting back and relaxing... then I saw the rest of the title "...apeshit" then my ears were rapped. Thank you for the Buddy Rich amusment but I'm goin' back to hear some lovely, dreamy *Starflyer 59*. *; )*
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  5. Marigold says Sunny H is so Rad.
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  6. FluxCapacitor says Haha, dig the honesty, H! Mike, you're taking away my customers!
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  7. Marigold says I am sure SunnyH is not going anywhere. She will be back. She loves you...almost as much as I do.
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  9. Marigold says awwww...so cute.
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  10. ketut says My boss doesn't scream like that, but he gets his message across in other ways. I remember seeing him on Johnny Carson a couple of times. He was in the wild old school drummers group. Him, Keith Moon, Bonham anyone else?
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  11. Marigold says keith. The beatings are not enough? You need to be beaten verbally as well? Point taken.
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  12. ketut says I never said that! You misread my meaning. I , I mean, uh, oh never mind. I remembered another wold drummer. Animal from the Muppet Show.
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  13. ketut says wold = wild
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  14. FluxCapacitor says Animal vs Buddy Rich
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  15. Marigold says I think Buddy Rich won. But just barely.
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  16. Dzendvokh says I can respect a berating, when it is called for, when necessary, yeah I think It would do wonders..... but from what I understand Buddy Rich did it habitually..... that I do not respect, no matter how good a player he was. Thanks, flux, that was quite interesting
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  17. FluxCapacitor says Thanks, Nick. Wiki explains that he did it habitually, but rarely ever fired a band member. And I suppose the fact that somebody risked recording him suggests that the guys didn't take his threats too seriously. If somebody constantly dishes out the hairdryer treatment it tends to lose its power to motivate.
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  18. TylerDurden says "sit down and play some flippin music, what? you afraid you won't be heard......every one of you has got a long flippin way to go......what your doing up there doesn't even deserve to be called music, 50 kids out in the park have more talent than you....." Great rat-a-tat-tat drummer......although....I wouldn't have liked to be in his band, not with his potty mouth..... Good upload Colin
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  19. FluxCapacitor says Cheers, Joe. Thanks for cleaning it up!
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  20. TylerDurden says no problem, tryin to show some respect, you know, as a christian I gotta take advice where I can get it, especially when you were right Colin. Thanks
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  21. Bartleby says Buddy Rich may have been an foul-mouthed curmudgeon but he was loved by his family and those who saw beyond his nagging personality. Even if he had a Tourette-tinged turn of phrase, who cares when the music's so good? If you like colourful characters, here's someone else going ape-faeces at about 1'12" in this clip (note: I'm not particular fond of Mr O. Russell's work)
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  22. FastRMacR says Awesome! I LOVE IT! Listen to THE MAN - or you will NOT BE playing! Cool post - amazing to hear what I've known about. Incredible man with a band - HIS band. I saw him twice in the 80s and I can still feel it. That guy had 5 heart attacks and just kept playing. I heard a story that BR had let his bandsmen party their asses off all night after a Saturday evening gig. He barrels in the next morning and demands a rehearsal at 7am (sleep or not). That heckling was constant. Aye - but so was the music. That will be finest, tightest, and loudest big band you will EVER hear my friend.
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  23. poebegone says hmmmmmm. fucking geniuses fucking driving every-fucking-one else up the fucking wall to fucking catch up to them. me, myself, i work alone. (;
    Permalink posted 12/15/2007
  24. FluxCapacitor says @ Michael - Thanks for posting that shocking clip! Lili Tomlin showed such class in the face of that cowardly attack, and she's the one who has actually done something in show business. On that evidence, I have to say Russell is a disgusting excuse for a human being, picking on a lone woman like that. Incredible how nobody else told him to shut up. I can see now why George Clooney knocked him out on the set of Three Kings. Rich was taking on a bunch of men, at least. I hope Lizziegreeneyes doesn't see that, she's a huge fan of Lili Tomlin! @ FastRMacR - Glad you liked it so much, mate. I was coming from a comedy angle, so I feel slightly ashamed that I'm only learning/seeing/hearing now what an amazing drummer Rich was, which is of course what he'll go down in history for - his playing is superhuman! Fantastic that you got to see him play....and quite lucky, since the guy had 5 heart attacks and kept going! @ Ilay - Hahaha! I think I'm going to employ Tyler Durden to clean up all the posts on my Mog, the kind of filth being bandied about here is disgraceful! And on working alone, I did it for so many years but found to my great, great chagrin that my work (scripting, that is) is much better when other people have their say on it. Kills me, that does!
    Permalink posted 12/15/2007
  25. soulrocket says hah he was a tough one. loving the animal vs. buddy guy clip a lot. great post as usual, colin.
    Permalink posted 12/20/2007
  26. Jonh Ingham says If you liked that there's a Paul Anka clip of him doing much the same thing only for a hell of a lot longer. To hear him discussing how the band screwed up 'My Way' at some length and profanity borders on the surreal. There's a clip posted on the Net somewhere but I can't find where I buried the url.
    Permalink posted 12/22/2007
  27. FluxCapacitor says @ Danny - The sad thing is that Animal clip was my first view of the great man's drumming skills! @ Jonh - How you tease! If it ever shows up, send it my way. I'm a big fan of insult comedians and/or musicians...
    Permalink posted 12/22/2007

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