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Budweiser Hit By Great White Concert Fire Victims; Lawsuits Getting Out Of Hand?

Posted about 1 year ago
Lawsuits are still looming from the 2003 Great White concert fire at the Station nightclub in Rhode Island, where pyrotechnics set flammable soundproofing foam on the club's walls and ceiling aflame. More than 200 people were injured and 100 people died.$122 million has been given to the 300+ survivors and victims' relatives that have sued people and companies involved with the nightclub.According to "Pollstar.com":http://pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=10286 the plaintiffs have gone after the Home Depot, which sold insulation used in the club, the American Foam Corporation, accused of selling the flammable foam to the club, and Clear Channel Broadcasting, whose local rock radio station promoted the concert. More recently they went after Anheuser -Busch, yeah good ol' Budweiser, and its Rhode Island-based distributor, McLaughlin & Moran. Lawyers claimed that McLaughlin & Moran ran a Budweiser promotion the night of the show, with a banner for the beer hanging outside the club, as well as airing radio advertisements for the concert.Instead of fighting the thing out in court and paying the high lawyer fees and etc, Anheuser-Busch and McLaughlin & Moran agreed to pay a cool $21 million to the victims, but did not take any blame for the fire.Now, I am a little confused at how this suing thing works. When I flew off my bike in college should I have sued the bike manufacturer? The asphalt company that paved the street? The tire company of the bike I was riding on? In this case, I feel that the Station fire was the direct responsibility of the club owners, the band and their management. Perhaps if I had been more directly related to the victims or the incident I would feel the need for some monetary compensation?Owners Jeffrey and Michael Derderian, who installed the foam, and former Great White tour manager Daniel Biechele, plead to involuntary manslaughter charges. Biechele and Michael Derderian were served with four-year prison sentences, with Biechele released on parole in March.Jeffrey Derderian was slapped with 500 hours of community service and three years probation. Do you think Budweiser should be held partly accountable for the fire?

Comments (11)

  1. ROCKNROLLPIMP says tragedies are sad suing everybody and everything is sadder this is our judicial system run amok and i get pretty dang pissed that people put a price on life they are just vultures in my opinion
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  2. Madeline Burke says With a tragedy of this proportion it is not hard to understand the pain and grief family members of the deceased are left with, and out of the 200 injured, how many will need ongoing medical care?,perhaps for the rest of their lives...but when is enough, enough?? I think this goes a little overboard.
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  3. indiepixie says yeah i get mad when i hear of things like this tho. that's way overboard.
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  4. Charley Rogulewski says ok... good to hear i wasn't the only one thinking this was a little too much when it came to the lawsuits. i was afraid i was being insensitive or something.
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  5. indiepixie says nah chick. what the world doesn't need is another lawyer :) just ask the maker of McDonalds coffee cups :)
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  6. fairportfan says Okay, first off, let me say that, since one of my great-grandfathers (on my father's side) was from "*České Budějovice*

    ":http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budějovický_Budvar (the other was from Plzen, so we sort of have a "good beer" tradition in the family), anything bad that happens to Anheuser-Busch {at least where their "Budweiser" brand is concerned} tends to move me to Schadenfreude. That said, i don't really think AB should be involved in this. *That* said, i *do* think that Home Depot and the manufacturer *should* be at least partly liable, since they apparently sold a flammable material for structural use. And, on the gripping hand, i think *primary* liability should, indeed, rest on the club and the band. (I'm trying to remember - wasn't there a fire inside a dome stadium somewhere caused by indoor fireworks?)
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  7. Universalis says ° ° ° Seen from Europe all that "sue" thing looks completely weird, i mean responsible guys shall pay ok with that, but then why also not sue over the local authorities in charge of controlling that legal standards were met, and then why not also blame and sue the firebrigade that came to late or whatever... ...yes i believe all this goes "out of hands". Now about the band, unless the band members themselves have fired the pyros i don't see any reason to blame them, responsible are the managers or the engineer who fired it, ok the damage done was terrible, many lifes burnt to ashes, but why in hell a man playing a guitar or singing in a mike would be held responsible for a fire ???
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  8. fairportfan says
    Now about the band, unless the band members themselves have fired the pyros i don't see any reason to blame them, responsible are the managers or the engineer who fired it, ok the damage done was terrible, many lifes burnt to ashes, but why in hell a man playing a guitar or singing in a mike would be held responsible for a fire ???
    The band certainly approved of the pyrotechnics in advance, may very well have been the ones who decided to use them.
    Basic legal doctrine - the Captain is responsible for whatever happens to his ship, even if he was asleep belowdecks when it happened.
    As an example:
    in 1969, the US destroyer Frank E. Evans was on joint maneuvers with an Australian carrier, and, during the night, made an improper turn across the carrier's bows, resulting in a collision that cut the Evans in two, killing 74 crew members (out of 273).
    From Wikipedia:
    It was later learned that Evans’ commanding officer {Comander Albert Mclemore} was asleep in his quarters at the time of the incident, and command of the vessel was held by Lieutenants Ronald Ramsey and James Hopson; the former had failed the qualification exam to stand watch, while the latter was at sea for the first time.
    Commander McLemore and Lieutenants Hopson and Ramsey were also faced courts-martial for their contributions to the collision. Hopson and Ramsey were charged with dereliction of duty and negligence and had their positions in the promotion list moved down. McLemore was reprimanded for dereliction of duty and hazarding his ship.
    While "[having] their positions in the promotion list moved down" maynot sound like much of a punishment, it effectively ended their Naval careers, likewise the reprimand to the Captain pretty much ended his career.
    But the reson i quoted all that is to point out that even though the man was sound asleep at the time of the collision, and (though not mentioned here) that his standing orders for watchstanders were disobeyed in the run-up to the collision, it was still his responsibility.
    Likewise, under US law, at least, what yoour employee does as part of his discharge of his duties for you is at least *partly* your responsibility.
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  9. Universalis says ° ° ° Well i was raised in Napoleonic laws heritage mixed with calvinist laws here in Switzerland, but i will never understand this british/american way of laws. I don't believe a captain is responsible of everything that would happen on the ship, unless he is directly involved. Maybe the band approved the use of fireworks, they probably did it, but at no point the band would have approved it if they knew the insulation materials used were not "up to the job" (well IMHO) so as long as it's not fired by the artist himself (like Kiss' Ace Frehley throwing lghtnings from his axe) i stay with that only those directly involved shall be held responsible. No one shall be held responsible for the mistakes or someone else, unless he is directly involved in it (aka guys who sold and fitted the foam or club managers or pyro-engineers). The band were just here for a 2 hours show, how would have they gotten to know that THIS very club was ill-fitted ?? Were there deaths at other of their venues before ??? Well i answer NO and NO, and of course that would come as valid arguments a front of a jury here in my country, but seems it's not the way it works there across the pond :))))
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  10. Mike the Knife says I'd consider suing Anheuser-Busch for making crappy beer, but I can't see how they're culpable here unless their reps forced the club management, pyro "experts" and band members to get drunk on their swill - which somehow directly brought about this horrific tragedy.
    Permalink posted 05/26/2008
  11. Scotch says See, this is why the tech rider was invented. The act coming in says, "we're going to use this on stage," amongst many other things, and it is up to the venue to say if it's OK or not. It is NOT up to the act to look into every building material in the space (theater) to see if it can handle what they are going to throw at it. Only if the act didn't mention the pyros, or if they were told not to use them and used them anyway, can I see them at fault. Home Depot is responsible for selling a product? In this case, it's up to the venue to decide if the material they are using is safe to use. If Home Depot represented the material as safe for the use in question, or kept important information from the consumer, they are partly liable. Somehow I doubt that they did that. The only thing Anheuser-Busch did wrong (other than make crappy beer) is have deep pockets.
    Permalink posted 06/01/2008

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